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June 29th, 2009 14:00

Active Active R1 R2 setup Windows seeing multiple paths

We have a Active Active R1, R2 srdf from our main site to DR site, and also this R2 is synching with a BCV . (DMX-3)(no powerpath)

And the SQL Windows Servers in DR site shows 300 devices instead of 150 devices (with each device as unique signature. )

We need to setup in such a way that during normal boot up we should see BCV's only as devices on windows server and real disaster we need to see R2, now we are able to see both the devices and it takes 20 minutes to come up after a reboot any suggestions? documents, white papers welcome.
  • dynamox

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    Posted June 29th, 2009 17:00

    so you have R2 and BR-BCVs presented to the same host ?
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    Posted June 30th, 2009 07:00

    @Dynamox... Yes, we have the same host for both.

    @Allen, thanks for your inputs, but our Team lead is hesitant to mask the R2's is there any other alternatives.

    Thanks in advance
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    Posted June 30th, 2009 07:00

    We do something similar using Clones instead of BCVs. For DR tests we want the DR hosts to come up seeing the Clones, but for a real DR we want them to see the R2s. So we normally leave the R2s masked to the hosts and the Clones unmasked. We have scripts that can quickly unmask the R2s and mask the clones for a DR test, and other scripts that reverse the process after the test.

    This way the DR hosts are always ready for a quick DR activation.
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    Posted June 30th, 2009 10:00

    Well, I may be misunderstanding, but in the situation you described you would normally not have the R2s masked in.

    If for some reason you really don't want to play with the masking there is one other alternative that we discussed here at one point.

    Put two Dual headed HBAs in your server. Have port 0 from Each HBA masked to the BCVs. Have Port 1 from each HBA masked to the R2s. That way, if you can normally keep the Port 0 connections active and work off your BCVs. In the event of a DR you would move the connections from Port 0 to Port 1 on each HBA then boot.

    It would cost more for the HBAs, but you wouldn't need any more switch ports or FAs on the array.

    Just a thought.
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    Posted July 1st, 2009 02:00

    Another option .. map clones on a FA port and R2 devices on a different FA port.
    Keep second FA port (showing R2 devices) offline. When you need to "see" R2 devices, put first FA port offiline and put online the second one.

    Obviously you can't share the 2 FA ports with hosts having different requirements.

    Message was edited by:
    Stefano Del Corno
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    Posted July 1st, 2009 13:00

    Thanks for all your answers, we will discuss on our Storage weekly meetings and will let you know what we decided.
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    Posted July 2nd, 2009 11:00

    I, we have exactly the setup you are describing: a DR site with R2s and Clones.
    Clones used for DR testing and the R2 (synchronous) for real disasters.

    Now the way we manage the assignation between R2 and Clones is simply via LUN Masking. Everything is scripted so it takes seconds to mask/unmask volumes to a specidied system if we need the R2 or clones.

    So by default all systems are Offline. And based on what we need to do, the proper masking is applied before we boot the systems. So that way, systems are always booting with the right volumes. We usually unmask the clones when they need to be refreshed.

    Depending on the OS, you may need a cleanup procedure or reboot when moving from R2 to Clones and vice versa.

    Hope it helps
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    Posted July 3rd, 2009 12:00

    if you have access to SIU (Symmetrix Integration Utilities) you could use symntctl to control which volumes are mounted and which are not. When you unmount volumes it can put a lock on the volume so it does not get accidentally remounted. So you could keep both R2 and BRBCVs presented at the same time but only keep one set mounted. Check it out.

    https://powerlink.emc.com/nsepn/webapps/btg548664833igtcuup4826/km/live1/en_US/Offering_Technical/Technical_Documentation/300-001-457_a05_elccnt_0.pdf
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    Posted July 8th, 2009 10:00

    PowerPath is for path management, load balancing ..etc, SUI is more for logical volume management.
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    Posted July 8th, 2009 10:00

    Thanks Dynamox, one question shall we use SIU if we are using Powerpath ? We have plans to use Power Path for all of our windows systems.