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May 7th, 2007 18:00

Computer keeps Restarting

OK, I have a DIMENSION E510 running Windows XP Media Center Edition and my computer keeps restarting for no apparent reason. It's not a overheating problem because it will do it minutes after i turn on the computer and I have checked the fans and they are all working properly. I have no clue what is causeing this and really need some help, and if it helps, to me it seems like there is a power connection issue or something of that sort. When I have the computer off it will even make the attempt to turn on on its own or something like that. All i know is i'll have the computer off and then randomly i'll hear the sound of it trying to start. I only hear it for about a second and then it goes cuts off. I have no clue what's going. HELP PLEASE!!!
 
Thanks!
  • BELL BOY

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    Posted May 7th, 2007 23:00

    If after PC is switched on & Windows loaded, PC then reboots itself:

    There are some MS KB articles on restart loop problems, however, quote:

     

    “When I have the computer off it will even make the attempt to turn on its own or something like that.”

     

    That is very, very weird, sounds like something to do with power on/off switching circuit hardware?

     

    A long shot – but when manually turned off, does the self-restart problem occur when you work off-line?

     

    Assuming:

    1. Your PC is definitely clean (looks like you’ve been there, done it)

    2. Installed software is still in (Ctrl+F11) condition plus only AV & Windows updates

    3. You are not receiving any error messages?

    4. Scheduled Task is not auto running anything

     

    Then it does tend to point to hardware as the likely cause.

     

    Are there any clues in Event Viewer?

    Guess there is no relevant diagnostic LED status or bleep code help?

    If available have you tried using boot F12 with Dell Diagnostics Drivers & Utilities CD (Resource CD)?

     

    Using boot F2 have you checked that BIOS settings are All on default values?

    The following are probably not the cause, since you mention random restarts, but check them anyway:

     

    Under Power Management, Auto Power, Off is the default setting

    Under Onboard Devices, Integrated NIC, On is the default setting (On w/PXE is disabled)
     
     
  • BELL BOY

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    Posted May 9th, 2007 12:00

    Hi dunedin,

    Agree.

     

    Reply was already getting a bit lengthy so didn’t want to get into WOL enabled NIC setting checks, the reason for above long shot comment/question – that is, assuming OP replies?

      

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    Posted May 9th, 2007 12:00

    Yes, it could be a setting in the BIOS
     
    Go into the BIOS Setup (it should tell you what key to press during the POST when you boot the PC), and under "Power Management Setup" or similar, make sure the following are disabled (or anything else along the same lines, BIOS's are all different so it's not possible to be exact):
     
    PME Event wake-up
    Modem Ring
    Wake on LAN
    Resume by alarm
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    Posted May 9th, 2007 14:00

    Yes indeed, Bell Boy.
     
    Don`t want to bog him/her down :smileyhappy:
     
     
  • Justinu1989

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    Posted May 11th, 2007 23:00

    A long shot – but when manually turned off, does the self-restart problem occur when you work off-line?

    Yes sometimes it will do it 2 or more times in a row before the computer can even get to windows

     

    Assuming:

    1. Your PC is definitely clean (looks like you’ve been there, done it) 

    I did an Ad-Aware scan and it found some stuff but nothing unusual. Then i checked for updates and there was one so i re-ran the scan and it found a Trojan. Ever since that's been gone i have not physically seen the computer turn off be there might have been one instance when it did while i was at school but i cant be certain because my brother used the computer and i couldn't tell if programs i had up were closed when i got back to the computer.

    2. Installed software is still in (Ctrl+F11) condition plus only AV & Windows updates 

    (check)

    3. You are not receiving any error messages?

    (no error messages)

    4. Scheduled Task is not auto running anything

    (check)

     

    no clues in event window

    and will check F2 now

    and sorry about late response I've been really busy and haven't had much time to get on


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    checked F2 and everything is set to defualt



    Message Edited by Justinu1989 on 05-11-2007 08:08 PM
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    Posted May 12th, 2007 17:00

    ARGGGG!!! The computer is still doing it! It just restarted 3 times in a row with about 2 seconds between each time
  • BELL BOY

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    Posted May 12th, 2007 20:00

    Justinu1989

     

    Reason for the long shot comment/question was because of possible WOL (Wake-On-Lan) enabled NIC setting feature allowing an outside source to start up your PC remotely.

    A lengthy subject, but to eliminate that as possible cause you would work off-line, meaning disconnect cable or DSL modem from the PC NIC. (I use a power on/off switch on my cable modem).

    If done & you still obtain reboots from a Windows powered down PC, then it’s not a WOL security problem.

     

    Your reply quote, “because my brother used the computer” complicates possible causes.

    Are you the PC owner with an Administrator account?

    There should only be one PC user with Administrator account, all others should be set as Limited or Guest.

    It’s recommended that you don’t surf the web when using an Administrator account.

     

    Was auto reboot problem present on day one after receiving new PC?

     

    Since you still have a recurring auto reboot problem then regrettably the only way to determine if it’s Software/Virus/Trojan etc causing the problem is to start at square one again & complete a rigorous step-by-step approach – checking for the auto reboot problem before moving to each next step.

    Until cause of problem is identified, having more than one PC user access just introduces an undesired variable that makes this near impossible!

     

    Square One.

    Tends to be a last resort, but some people do a Windows clean reinstall to resolve difficult Software/Virus/Trojan causing problems, do not do this without first fully understanding procedures & implications.

     

    Using DSR utility (Ctrl+F11) is a lot quicker & less complicated than a Windows clean reinstall & it should remove everything that was not originally preinstalled on new PC, includes (as far as I know) Virus/Trojan etc..

    Assume you followed the correct procedure here (scroll down page if necessary)

     

    With only one user access to PC until the problem is resolved or cause is identified

    Step 1

    Follow the above DSR link procedure, then check for any auto reboot problems   

    Step 2

    With pre-installed AV software or after reinstalling AV preferably using AV Setup CD

    Go on-line do nothing other than obtain AV DAT updates & download/install all Windows updates issued between PC purchase & DSR used dates, then check for any auto reboot problems

    Step 3

    Start to install “other” essential only software one-at-a-time & check for any auto reboot problems each time

     

    Check after every software install step is essential, otherwise you’ll be unable to confirm what, if any, software program is causing the problem.

     

    If auto reboot problem does restart then post a reply identifying exact step reached.
     
     
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    Posted May 12th, 2007 20:00



    Justinu1989 wrote:
    ARGGGG!!! The computer is still doing it! It just restarted 3 times in a row with about 2 seconds between each time



    I get exactly the same on my E520 when I have WOL (Wake on LAN) enabled in the BIOS. If I disable this in the BIOS it doesn;t occur.
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    Posted May 13th, 2007 06:00

    First off when i first got the computer it never did this before. It just started about a month ago.
     
    Second i have already done a Ctrl+F11 about 3 weeks ago and ran AV scans right after and found nothing wrong and it still kept restarting.
     
    As for turning off my DSL, I'm always using it, i really don't know any time I'm not using it when I'm on the computer...
     
    This WOL how do i turn that off and if i do will my DSL still work? I tried turning off the NIC but then my internet didn't work... (sorry I'm not really sure what I'm doing with this WOL and NIC stuff)
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    Posted May 13th, 2007 17:00



    Justinu1989 wrote:
     
    This WOL how do i turn that off and if i do will my DSL still work? I tried turning off the NIC but then my internet didn't work... (sorry I'm not really sure what I'm doing with this WOL and NIC stuff)


    In the BIOS setup select "Power Management" section, and then look for "Remote Wake up".
     
    Make sure "Remote Wake Up" is set to "No".
     
    Yes your DSL will work fine with Remote wake up (also called Wake on LAN [WOL[) disabled.