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August 19th, 2007 22:00

Partitioning

I am resending this message with the proper message subject as no body will help me with the wrong subject.After I partition my hard drive into say 5 partitions:data files,operating system,applications,music files,photo files,how do each of these files get recording in their appropriate partitions?Also,when I am partitioning,will the installation cd allow me to name each partition data files,operating system,applications,music files,photo files?There,I got it right.(lol).Thank you.
  • tgsmith

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    Posted August 20th, 2007 02:00

    Harleybutch,
     
    Windows XP, by default, puts User Profiles and Program Files (applications) in the same partition as the Windows operating system.  Additional application files are often located in the Documents and Settings folder under user profile(s).  Most application installation programs put their files in these locations.   I would recommend that you not attempt to change the location of Program Files (applications).
     
    Documents, music, photos, videos and program data files can be in as many other partitions as you desire to create when installing Windows XP.  Some programs offer the option to install them in other partitions (logical drives) during their installation.  I personally recommend against this in most cases.  Updates for many programs assume the normal default location, and in some cases will create havoc when attempting to upgrade, reinstall or uninstall those programs.
     
    Programs such as Microsoft Office, Corel, Quickbooks, Autocad, iTunes, etc. allow you to designate the default folder for their data files.  Those data files can be located in any logical drive on your system or network.  
     
    All partitions (logical drives) can have unique names; i.e., Partition 1 could be Windows OS, Partition 2 could be Documents, Partition 3 could be Music, Partition 4 could be Photos, and so forth.
     
    Windows will format the operating system partition at the time of installation.  The other partitions can then be formatted from within Windows.   You can name the partitions simply by right clicking on the formatted logical drive and then left click on Rename.
     
    Hope this info answers your questions.
     
    Tony
     
     
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    Posted August 20th, 2007 04:00

    You can only creat a maximum of FOUR Primary partitions. That is the limit.
     
    However you can create for example:
     
    Three Primary Partitions and then one Extended Partition ( which counts as the fourth Primary ) and inside the Extended partition you can create as many logical drives as you want.
     
    pcgeek11
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    Posted August 20th, 2007 15:00

     
    "To create a new logical drive in an extended partition, right click unallocated space in the extended partition and click New Logical Drive."


    Message Edited by mombodog on 08-20-2007 11:37 AM
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    Posted August 21st, 2007 17:00

    Tony,Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to explain to me where files,operating system,user profils,and program files will be located when I partition in the future when I have to get a new hard drive.I took notes from your explaination.It was very well written like a professional article that a programer or professor would have written.You covered everything in an organized and easy for me to understand explaination.I have found no other information that covered this topic in this mannor.I have spent time researching this,but nowhere could I find the answer to these questions.I am sure everyone on this forum will benefit from reading your explaination,sincerely Linda
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    Posted August 21st, 2007 17:00

    Thank you.
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    Posted August 21st, 2007 19:00

    Thank you.
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    Posted August 21st, 2007 19:00

    Tony,sorry to bother you.But could you explain and clarify the following:If I buy a new hard drive and want to partition it,will I use FDISK to partition it? When would I use Disk Management?If I bought a new computer from Dell and Dell had already partitioned it,and I wanted to repartition it before using it,would I use the installation operating system CD,FDISK,or Disk Management.When this time comes,I want to be prepared by knowing what to do and in what order.I am having a hard time distingushing between the installation CD,FDISK,and disk management.After I partition the drive,I will have to format it?Does the installation CD,FDISK,and Disk Management then allow me to format my drive.Of course,if I bought 3rd party software like Parttition Magic,this software would allow me to perform the partitioning and formating before I installed my operating system.And I would'nt have to worry about FDISK,Disk Management,or the installation CD.Thank you,Linda
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    Posted August 22nd, 2007 19:00

    Harleybutch,
     
    Linda, this link will explain how to partition a Windows XP drive with the XP installation CD:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313348 
     
    This link explains how to partition a drive using the Fdisk tool and Format tool of Windows 95 (OSR2), Windows 98, Windows 98 2nd Edition, Windows Me, and Windows 2000:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255867/
     
    As Pcgeek11 pointed out you can have a maximum of four primary partitions, or three primary and one extended partition.  This link explains how to use Disk Management to create basic disks in Windows XP:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309000/
     
    One thing to keep in mind when creating logical drives is not to create too many.  For example, let's say your system has a floppy drive, hard drive, CD drive, DVD drive, Zip or USB drive, a 6-card media drive (Compact Flash, SD, etc), and you plan to use a digital camera connected as a logical drive.  That would mean that you would have A(floppy) ,B(phantom floppy), C(hard disk), D(CD), E(DVD), F(Zip or USB), G-H-I-J-K-L(Media), and M(camera).  That's 13 drives.  You can only have 26 (A-Z) total.  Disk Management will allow you to assign drive letters to the basic disks you create.  Depending upon when you create the additional basic disks (logical drives), this could get interesting. 
     
    As to repartitioning the drive on a new Dell computer.  Depending upon the Operating System; i.e., Windows XP, XP Media Center or Vista, it will be impossible to put it back to the way it was shipped should you ever have a change of heart on the matter.  I would probably opt for simply disconnecting the Dell-installed drive, Install a new, blank drive , install XP, partition it the way I thought I wanted it and see how I like it.
     
    Hope this info helps.
     
    Tony
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    Posted August 24th, 2007 03:00

    Harleybutch,
     
    Per your e-mail message:

    "Tony,1.What are user profiles?.2.What is a phamtom floppy?.3.If I buy a new computer and disconnect the drive,do I leave it in its bay in the computer?

    Linda"

    !. User Profile is just another name for User Account.

     
    2. A phantom floppy, usually the B: drive is simply a carryover from DOD (Days of DOS) when we only had one floppy disk, no hard drive and no CD-ROM drive.  To copy a disk, we typed COPY A: B:. The computer would then read as much data as it could store in memory from the source disk, prompt us to insert a destination disk in Drive B: (the same drive as A:), write the stored data to the new disk, then prompt us to reinsert the source disk in Drive A:, read more data, prompt for the destination disk in drive B:, and repeat the process until all data was copied.  The physical A: drive thus served as a phantom B: drive because a B:drive did not physically exist as it did in a system with two floppy drives.
     
    3. Yes.  You can leave the Dell-installed hard drive in its bay.  Disconnect its data cable and power cables or cable if its a SATA drive.  Connect the cable(s)  to your new, blank drive and proceed to partition, format and install XP.
     
    Note:  My Dell Forum Messenger only receives messages.  For some reason, it won't send replies, so I have to copy and paste DFM messages in my reply here.
     
    Hope this info answers your questions.
     
    Tony
     
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    Posted August 25th, 2007 21:00

    Hi Tony,

     

    Sorry for the multiple unfinished posts; I’m still in learning mode.

     

    I am trying to do exactly what Lynda is.  I have a 2-week-old Inspiron 1501 running XP with an 80 GB hard drive.

     

    I would simply like to split C:\ into one more partition so I have C:\ as my ‘OS’ drive and D:\ (or whatever) as my ‘Data’ drive.

     

    Notwithstanding your excellent tutorial, I haven’t been able to complete this one task with neither PartionMagic nor XP’s Disk Management.  Everything seems to be bolted down quite solid.

     

    ParitionMagic tells me the hard drive (from left to right) has the following ‘partitions’ (?) on it:

     

    DELLUTILITY (*: ); FAT; 78.4 MB; status: None; Primary

    Local Disk (C: ) ; NTFS; 73GB; status: Active; Primary

    Local Disk (*: ) ; CP/M, Concurrent DOS, CTOS; 3 GB; status: None; Primary

     

    Any help would be much appreciated.

     

    CLG



    Message Edited by Siellgee on 08-25-2007 05:44 PM