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Virtualisation

There is no options for Virtualisation in the R4 Bios A11 (latest version)

In earlier versions of the Bios Virtualisation could be enabled, and when the update was applied the setting from the previous Bios seemed to stick, however, if Virtualisation was not enabled and A11 was enabled, then VMware will not run. So...Question. How do I get Virtualisation to work on an R4 with A11 Bios?

  • Eimy_B

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    Posted May 5th, 2017 09:00

    Hi,

    What's your system model?

  • speedstep

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    Posted May 5th, 2017 11:00

    The version of VMWARE and Windows along with the Exact part number of your board is required.

    Newer versions of windows Require SLAT 64 bit instructions to run.

    The Aurora is not a VMWARE ESX PowerEdge XEON Server.

  • Tesla1856

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    Posted May 5th, 2017 14:00

    R4 is not a valid model. What model Alienware do you have?

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  • Phil_654

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    Posted May 8th, 2017 00:00

    Thanks for the responses, to answer the questions raised:

    The model number Is Aurora R4, VMware Workstation versions 10, 11 & 12 workstation have been tried (on some Dell precisions we have encountered version specific issues with VMware).

    The OS is Windows 7 Utimate, but Windows 10 Pro has also been tried.

    We have two R4s, bought at the same time, however the builds differ. The one R4 has always run VMware, however I seem to remember enabling Virtualisation in an earlier BIOS version, during the initial setup of the system. The second system has always been used with our developemnt software as a native install, but now we want to use VMware on this system instead but no option for virualisation is available in the BIOS. When the VMWare Guest starts up (all versions), the Host goes to BSOD as soon as the guest OS splash screen appears. 

    I'm afraid I don't know how to identify the Mobo part number. The OriginalBuild list is below, I don't know if the Mobo part number is listed here?

    Support for Alienware Aurora R4 | Dell UK  

    KTF9T : INSTRUCTION, DEVIATION, #2, CHASSIS, PWA INTEGRATED, AUR4
    R0J05 : INSTRUCTION, DEVIATION, L6-TO-L5.5, AUR4
    T845M : INSTRUCTION, TRIGGER, SVC TAG
    23503 : LABEL, BARCODE, TRACK, SYSTEM BOARD, GENERIC
    6014H : SERVICE INSTALL MODULE, SOFTWARE, ANW-DT, AUR4
    JD509 : LABEL, REGULATORY, SIDE, UNIVERSAL, BLANK , V2
    73K15 : SHIPPING MATERIAL, BAG, SYSTEM, DEIMOS
    MFM7P : KIT, SHIPPING MATERIAL, CONTAINER, SHIPMENT, DEIMOS
    P3XJK : KIT, SHIPPING MATERIAL, BOX, OPTION, ANW
    PHC0K : SHIPPING MATERIAL, CLIP, DESKTOP, ANW
    F4GM8 : ASSEMBLY, DVD+/-RW, 24X, HALF HEIGHT, Serial ATA, PLDS
    KXGVD : LABEL, CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY, OPERATING SYSTEM, W7P3/6
    J8461 : ASSEMBLY, CABLE, VIDEO, LEAD FREE
    NW91M : CARD (CIRCUIT), GRAPHICS, ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES, R9-270, PRIME, MW
    KT2TK : LABEL, INTEL, NO BIOS, CI72
    GDN7X : DUAL IN-LINE MEMORY MODULE, 2G, 1600, 256X64, 8, 240, 1RX8
    XN966 : KIT, MOUSE, UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS, 2BTN, OPTICAL, LOGITECH
    16583 : CORD, POWER, 1.8M, IRE/UK
    338DJ : PROCESSOR, IVB, I7-4820K, 3.7, 130W, L
    0FXJK : LABEL, REGULATORY, MINICARD, WIRELESS, 1540, CSMB
    1MKM4 : CARD (CIRCUIT), WIRELESS, NETWORK, 1540NOBT, PC INTERFACE, FULL HEIGHT
    RU297 : KIT, CARD (CIRCUIT), NETWORK, DOCUMENTATION, ANTENNA, SCREW, ASSEMBLY
    C95YV : KIT, DOCUMENTATION, AW SERI/EULA, EMEA1
    06G5H : ASSEMBLY, CHASSIS, PWA INTEGRATED, STANDARD, 875, AUR4, IVBE
    7P4JG : ASSEMBLY, HEATSINK, H2C, CENTRAL PROCESSOR UNIT, AUR4
    Y569K : SCREW, M5X10MM, FLAT HEAD, THREAD ROLLING, NICKEL PLATED
    8WDYM : HARD DRIVE, 1TB, S3, 7.2K, SGT-PHAR 6G
    F836R : PAD, MOUSE, ANW, M17X
    F889R : ACCESSORY, STICKERS, ANW, M17X
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    Posted May 8th, 2017 05:00

    I'll have a look once the current simulation is completed.

    Cheers!

  • speedstep

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    Posted May 8th, 2017 05:00

    Amazon.com: FPV4P Dell Alienware Aurora R4 ALX Intel Desktop Motherboard s2011: Computers & Accessories 

    Amazon.com: 7JNH0 Dell Alienware Aurora R4 ALX Intel Desktop Motherboard s2011: Computers & Accessories 

    The PWA is the motherboard so this chassis

    06G5H : ASSEMBLY, CHASSIS, PWA INTEGRATED, STANDARD, 875, AUR4, IVBE

    Dell functional spare part description: MB SVC Kit

    (Order for Base 06G5H, V6986, Contains MB 8FMMC - support Ivybridge E) DPK for WIN8 Home

    WIN7 - 41DDY

    WIN8 Home - KR0CX

    WIN8 PRO - TRGPK

    I think the 875 means

    Intel Core i7 i7-875K 2.93 GHz Processor  (BX80605I7875K) 

    FPV4P  7JNH0  8FMMC are Motherboard Numbers for the USA.  Look by the Power Connector for the Label

    with QR code.  The Label with the QR code is one place and the other place is by the CPU Socket.

    CN-XXXXXX means made in china  MX-XXXXXX means Made in Mexico

    AURORA R4 DPN

  • Tesla1856

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    Posted May 8th, 2017 08:00

    It should not be too hard to figure out since you have a working one. I suggest you create a "manifest" spreadsheet between the "VMWare working" Aurora-R4 and the one other one. Documenting things like:

    Intel CPU model Installed, and is

    - Is Intel Virtualization Technology (VT-x) supported ?
    - Is Intel Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) supported ?
    - Is Intel VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) supported ?

    Motherboard revision

    BIOS currently installed
    - Available VT options

    ... things like that.

    Once you know the differences, you can re-focus your troubleshooting.

    It should be possible to "back-flash" the BIOS if that is the discrepancy. However, there is a "bricking risk" so be very careful (I usually recommend doing it from DOS/FreeDOS).

     

    However, in general ... if a common BIOS option switch is missing on a machine, that sometimes just means the feature is "forced ON" (with no way to Disable) ... not the other way around.

     

    If VMWare crashes on startup, I don't think I would move right to a BIOS problem. There are many other explanations. Surely, VMWare supplies troubleshooting docs ... maybe even a pre-install "VMWare System Readiness" diagnostic utility.

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  • speedstep

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    Posted May 8th, 2017 09:00

    Virtualization Depends on more than Just the Bios,  The CPU and the Chipset, and the OS must also support SLAT etc.   This is why Hyper-visor doesn't work with older units that worked fine with Virtual PC 2007 for XP.   If you upgraded the bios you may have to clear the cmos and then check INTEL TXT and other parameters to see if they are available aka VT-x  VT-d  which may be labeled INTEL Virtualization.

    To verify compatibility, open up PowerShell or a command prompt (cmd.exe) and type systeminfo. If all listed Hyper-V requirements have a value of Yes, your system can run the Hyper-V role. If any item returns No, check the requirements listed in this document and make adjustments where possible.

    HYPERV

    Windows 10 Hyper-V System Requirements | Microsoft Docs 

    Although this document does not provide a complete list of Hyper-V compatible hardware, the following items are necessary:

      • 64-bit Processor with Second Level Address Translation (SLAT).
      • CPU support for VM Monitor Mode Extension (VT-c on Intel CPU's).
      • Minimum of 4 GB memory. As virtual machines share memory with the Hyper-V host, you will need to provide enough memory to handle the expected virtual workload.

    The following items will need to be enabled in the system BIOS:

    • Virtualization Technology - may have a different label depending on motherboard manufacturer.
    • Hardware Enforced Data Execution Prevention.
  • Phil_654

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    Posted May 9th, 2017 23:00

    From the picture below:

    BP/N 0FPV4P

    CN-0FPV4P-69702-3BD-1004-A00

    Hope this helps

    Picture of Mobo

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    Posted May 10th, 2017 00:00

    Thanks Speedstep,

    I tried running the Systeminfo on several of the workstations that I have nearby, but none of them present the information shown in your screenshot for 'Hyper-V Requirements' as I think this reporting feature is not included in the windows 7 version of the tool.

    Win7 is being used as the developement software we are using does not currently support Windows. It was a good point raised earlier that (I think) VMware may offer a tool that shows the system support for VMware, so I was intending to try this once I get some downtime on the affected PC.