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e310 video options

my friend has the e310 and he saw me playing fear the one day which requires a dx9 card, well he wants to do it no matter what, but doesnt want a new computer, and i was wondering if any other dell motherboards would fit in his case with little modification aka same processor, ram, only with a pci express 16 slot or maybe an agp slot.... i asked a dell guy and he told me to call the techs but i dont feel like waiting or calling before 5... anyone have any good ideas?
  • Lord_Maxthor

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    Posted August 26th, 2006 07:00

    If you will change into a new mobo you have to change the Processor and the RAM. Mobo that has PCI-Express 16x needs at least 800Mhz of processor and I think E310 has a max of 533Mhz of processor. If he/she wants to play games he/she needs a PCI based graphic card. the best graphic card is the Geforce 6200, another good card is Geforce 5500. You can search for it at www.newegg.com or at the www.tigerdirect.com.


    Note: only PCI vide cards not PCI-Express or AGP.







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  • SR45

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    Posted August 26th, 2006 09:00

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2427231&CatId=697   6200 PCI slot card

    And even though the card suggests a 300 watt power supply, you won't need a power supply upgrade either.  You will be fine

  • Gamer567

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    Posted August 27th, 2006 03:00

    There is a new pci card out that is even better than the 6200, although you must be willing to spend about $130. Visontek has recently come out with a X1300 256mb DDR2 video card for the pci slot. This card has way better specs than the 6200,

    Here is the link http://www.visiontek.com/products/cards/retail/x1300_256pci.html

  • SR45

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    Posted August 27th, 2006 09:00

    Sorry, have to do this again.  $112.00 for this low ended card over a $39.00 low ended 6200 PCI card is not worth it

    http://forum.visiontek.com/viewforum.php?f=3  X1300 PCI card forum you might want to read

  • speedstep

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    Posted August 27th, 2006 11:00

    One reason that 6200 card is $39 is because the emperor has no clothes.
    Its 5V ONLY PCI 2.0
    New dells come with 3.3V ONLY PCI 2.3
    which means its not going to work at all in a newer dell.

    That card works fine in OLDER dells like GX1 or GX110.
     
    The Visiontek X1300 is Windows Vista Ready aka it will run Aero.
    Manufacturer Part# : VTK X1300256PCI-SFF
    Dell Part# : A0683274
     
    Fits in Low Profile desktops and workstations (short bracket mounted on card). The card is convertible to standard ATX design with the included tall bracket for standard chassis as well.
     
    Specifications
    ATI RADEON™ X1300 Visual processing Unit
    256MB DDR2 Memory
    PCI Bus (3.3v)
    450MHz VPU clock
    533MHz memory clock
    90 nanometer GPU
    Ultra threaded core 3D architecture
    Avivo™ display enhancement technology
    Shader model 3.0
     

    Message Edited by SpeedStep on 08-27-200608:57 AM

  • speedstep

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    Posted August 27th, 2006 12:00

    I purchased the 6200 card retail and then took it back after I found out that it was PCI 2.0 not PCI 2.2 universal or PCI 2.3 There are also others that have black screen and black blocks artifacts with the card. I thought this was power supply related but found out that it was PCI Version related. Universal PCI cards have 2 keyways in them aka PCI 2.2 Non Universal 5v or 3.3v ONLY cards have 1 keyway in them./ The 3DFUSION and BFG 6200 PCI cards are 5V PCI 2.0 only. PCI SPEC 2.3 does not support 5V keyed cards. They will go into the slot but they will not work. 5V keyed cards are not supported in PCI 2.3 aka newer dells. Works fine in Older dells. http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/conventional/conventional_pci_23/

     

  • speedstep

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    Posted August 27th, 2006 12:00


    @SR45 wrote:
    Interesting SpeedStep, never heard anyone complaining yet on the 6200 card.  Have seen reports on the X1300 forum that also has issues.  It would be welcomed to read up on the benchmarking of this card over the 6200 PCI card.  Have not seen one yet.  Anyone has ? 

    http://3dfuzion.com/cards_6200_pci_128.asp

    NVIDIA Forums -> 3D Fuzion Geforce 6200 PCI Probs =/

    http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=10792&st=20

    Subject: PC Restarts In Game \ nv4_disp.dll

    http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/6647.html
    Graphics Card: 3D Fusion 256MB GeForce 6200 PCI

    NVIDIA Forums > 3D Fuzion GeForce 6200 128MB PCI Problem
    http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t10450.html

    The FX5500 is a better choice because its UNIVERSAL PCI

    2 keyway cuts in the PCI connector indicating full PCI support for 3.3v or 5v

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1520540&Tab=11&NoMapp=0

    Message Edited by SpeedStep on 08-27-200609:56 AM

  • SR45

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    Posted August 27th, 2006 12:00

    Interesting SpeedStep, never heard anyone complaining yet on the 6200 card.  Have seen reports on the X1300 forum that also has issues.  It would be welcomed to read up on the benchmarking of this card over the 6200 PCI card.  Have not seen one yet.  Anyone has ? 
  • SR45

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    Posted August 27th, 2006 15:00

    Thanks much SpeedStep for all the information and links...  Learn something new ever so often, thanks  :smileywink:
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    Posted August 27th, 2006 16:00

    Here are the specs for the 6200 PCI http://www.bfgtech.com/6200_256_PCI.html
     
     
    Seems that the X1300 for pci is better than the NIVIDIA® GeForce™ 6200. Look at the difference. Instead of DDR you get DDR2, Core clock 100 Mhz faster, Memory clock 123 Mhz faster. It's not i gigatnic difference but it is still better.
     
                                  X1300                                       6200
     
    Memory-                256mb DDD2                      256 DDR
     
    Core Clock-           450Mhz                               350Mhz
     
    Memory Clock-      533Mhz                               410Mhz
     
    RAMDAC-             ?                                          400Mhz
     
     

    Message Edited by Gamer567 on 08-27-200601:00 PM