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July 10th, 2007 20:00

E521/BIOS Boot Problems: Dell's Position?

I am yet another E521 owner with the BIOS boot-up problem (temporarily resolved by rearranging which devices are plugged into which USB ports).
 
I'd like to know what Dell's position is regarding this issue (Tech Support will not give cogent reply). Given the many people with this same problem,
- does Dell acknowledge a problem (motherboard/USB or BIOS)?
- was BIOS 1.1.10 supposed to fix this problem (it doesn't)?
- what is Dell's status regarding resolution?
 
 
Dimension E521
Windows Vista
RAM: 2GB
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
BIOS 1.1.10 (successful flash from 1.1.6)
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    Posted July 10th, 2007 23:00

    I'm glad i checked here first before I installed it to see if anyone was having any issues with it.
     
    I currently have it downloaded to my desktop. I almost went ahead and installed it, but thought maybe I should check the forums first.  Thank goodness I did.
     
    Now we just have to wait for some news. TIC...TOC....TIC....TOC...TIC...TOC...
     
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    XPS 200 Duo Core 930 3.0ghz
    Windows XP Media Center SP2
    3 GB PC-4200 533mhz
    250 GB Western Digital 7200 rpm
    Visiontek X1300 Pro sff 256mb
    Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 24bit external (usb)
    Slimline 8X (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
    19in Dell flat panel lcd
    2.1 Dell Surround Sound

    E521 AMD X2 3600+ (1.9 ghz. 512x2)
    Windows XP Home Edition SP2
    3GB 667mhz
    80GB 7200rpm
    ATI X1300 Pro
    16x DVD-Rom
    20.1in Dell e207fp (DVI)
    19in Dell e197fp (VGA)
    5.1 Dell Surround Sound
    BIOS 1.1.8
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    Posted July 10th, 2007 23:00

    I am not a Dell Support person, but also another who thought because the BIOS upgrade appeared on the driver page, it was safe to upgrade. WRONG! Their tech support informed me after my motherboard went south, that there was a known issue with this and not to do any more BIOS upgrades. The tech that came to the house today, 07/10/2007, said the same. He has already replace five(5) in the Denver, CO area, from this software.
     
    HEY DELL- Take the upgrade off your driver upgrade wab page.!
     
  • de11nomore

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    Posted July 11th, 2007 23:00

    How did you get someone to come to your house?  My board was fried by this BIOS update, Dell has finally sent me a new tower after about a month of delays, and, after promising a tech to come out to switch out my hard drive, now tells me it's not their policy to do this.  Although I made up that promise...
     
    This will probably be my last Dell after many years.  BTW, I also hesitated several times before updating BIOS - I've never had to do that before, but the constant Dell pop-ups warning me of security issues if not done finally had their effect.  How I wish I would have read here first.
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    Posted July 12th, 2007 00:00

    In talking to about my 20th dell rep in the past month, tonight I was told that my tower was replaced because the failure happened within 90 days of purchase.  If it would have happened after 90 days, they would have had a technician replace the motherboard - to me a much easier fix.  Now I wish I would have waited a week or so to call and just get the new mb...
  • miles55

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    Posted July 12th, 2007 02:00

    I have the same problem with my new C521. After using Google to find quite a few forums with lots of posts about this issue I found that they all were related to USB devices. Some had Keyboards causing the BIOS hang, other found USB Hard Drives were the issue. Here it seems to be USB Hubs.
     
    For me, I traced it to the WD "MyBook" USB Drive. As long as it was unplugged, I could boot without a problem. As soon as It was connected, The BIOS would hang with the progress bar half way to complete. I found some just moved the offending USB item and all was well, so I moved my USB Drive from the lower left to the lower right USB connection. I don't understand it, but I have rebooted at least a dozen times hence and it has yet to fail! :smileyhappy:
     
    Go figure.
     
    PS
     
    This occured with BIOS 1.1.4 and 1.1.10. I had no problems flashing the new BIOS.


    Message Edited by miles55 on 07-11-2007 11:35 PM
  • vxd

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    Posted July 12th, 2007 14:00

    I use a Smarthome device controller. A programmable, USB 2.0 to X10 controller. It has worked on every Dell I ever owned until an attempt to put it on my E521. There are serious USB problems with the E521, and if Dell cannot resolve them, they should offer a replacement motherboard for all. One which has USB that works. My solution, was to spend about $20 and get a PCI - USB 2.0 card and install the Smarthome device controller on it. Once on a PCI USB 2.0 card, my problems with this device stopped. How can a $20 card solve a problem which Dell seems unable to? The current USB support situation on E521 and C521 PC's reflects very poorly on Dell in my opinion.
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    Posted July 12th, 2007 16:00

    Dell is sending a tech to install a new motherboard in my E521. Hopefully this will permanently resolve the USB anomaly. Barring this, I will probably buy a self-powered USB hub - on the assumption that the root problem is insufficient power on the USB port(s).
     
     
    Dimension E521
    BIOS 1.1.10
    Windows Vista-32
    2GB RAM
    AMD Athlon X2 3800+ CPU
    250 GB Hard Drive
  • de11nomore

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    Posted July 12th, 2007 18:00



    RMP01 wrote:
    Dell is sending a tech to install a new motherboard in my E521. Hopefully this will permanently resolve the USB anomaly. Barring this, I will probably buy a self-powered USB hub - on the assumption that the root problem is insufficient power on the USB port(s).

    How long have you had your system?  Dell is telling me that since I've had my system less than 90 days, they won't install a new motherboard - they just will replace the entire tower, meaning having to reconfigure everything again, install all the software, update everything - all taking much more time...
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    Posted July 12th, 2007 18:00

    How long have you had your system?  Dell is telling me that since I've had my system less than 90 days, they won't install a new motherboard - they just will replace the entire tower, meaning having to reconfigure everything again, install all the software, update everything - all taking much more time...
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    I've had my E521 for about 2.5 weeks.
  • sjyoung

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    Posted July 12th, 2007 22:00

    I was just coming on here to post about this problem when I came across this post.
     
    However, I have a C521, not an E521 (AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+, 2GB DDR2 RAM), with this this - I guess it's the same motherboard though as I have BIOS version 1.1.10 (unfortunately it came with this version as it's so new).
     
    I was thinking I had a faulty computer, which didn't inspire me with confidence. Hopefully this is just a BIOS issue that will be resolved shortly...