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What do different "builds," same model have in common

Take the model number of a Dell desktop computer.  For example, Dell Optiplex 7010.  What defines the model number?  I am pretty certain that a model number offers "customizations" for the processor, memory, maybe graphics card.  It seems like there are multiple motherboards available, too.  I base that on the fact that there is more than one form factor attached to a motherboard. 

Maybe what ties all of the variations together is the chipset?  

  • beamermt79

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    Posted March 30th, 2019 14:00

    I would say when looking at something like that, you have the Series (XPS, Optiplex, Inspiron), then Model like 8910, 8920, 7010, etc. Then you can go to sub model on some like Small Form Factor, Ultra Small Form Factor, Mid Tower (mostly in the business products). Thats about it. Dell can put in any processor, motherboard, GPU, or PSU, etc., they want for a given time of the year. Example the XPS 8930 can have Intel Gen 8 processors one time and they can use the same model for Gen 9
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    Posted March 30th, 2019 20:00


    @Netherprovinc3 wrote:

     

    Maybe what ties all of the variations together is the chipset?  


    Basically, yes.

    Why do you ask?

    If you are looking to buy an old one, I suggest the large tower model.

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  • Netherprovinc3

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    Posted March 30th, 2019 22:00

    I am just curious.

  • speedstep

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    Posted March 31st, 2019 09:00

    There are usually feature differences based on which model as well as what size

    The old numbering was GX360 GX760 GX960

    Then  3010  7010 9010

    Newer models like 3020 7020 9020 and up have an additional size called Micro.

    I never recommend the 3 series but the 7 or 9 series are fine.

    390 and 3010 are horrilble,

    790 and 990  as well as 7010 and 9010 are good machines.

    Older than 790 will work but will not have mitigations for Spectre and Meltdown for the CPU micro code.

    Windows 10 works and installs on machines as old as the GX620.

    the 7010 is the transition machine in that you can install XP on it.

    The GX620 is the ancient transition machine that runs EVERYTHING from MSDOS 6.22 all the way thru WINDOWS 10.

    Models from 2005 and earlier will not EVER work with windows 8 or 10.

    Models from earlier than 2003 will not work with windows 7 let alone windows 10.

    HOWEVER  with 2 gigs of ram and a DVD drive you can install UBUNTU 18.04.2

    and it works fine. Does internet browsing,  plays DVD movies,  plays youtube videos etc.

    You would want at least an Optiplex 620 or better for this.

    The older models also work with UBUNTU but they are very slow and cant keep up with youtube ztreaming video.

    http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso

     

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    Posted March 31st, 2019 11:00

    Thanks for all of the info.  That's a great rundown on things.  I think I am a bit disappointed in the ability to quickly figure out what's in a machine based off of the model number.  But, I think that's the way of the world in non-server computers that come packaged with Windows.  

    I am surprised at how many Windows operating systems each of these machines can run.  I recently bought a Lenovo Thinkcentre M82 Az6 Machine type: 2929, which is comparable to an Optiplex 7010 that I'm considering, and it doesn't seem to support Windows 8.1, but it does support Windows 7 and Windows 10.  Perhaps it could support 8.1 but you would have to dig deep to find drivers (motherboard manufacturer or Intel).  I seem to have "exhausted" Lenovo support and the peer forum.  

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    Posted March 31st, 2019 17:00

    How can you know the date of a certain Optiplex?  I have an Optiplex 960 and an Optiplex 9010, both MT size.   WinXP running on each one.

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    Posted March 31st, 2019 17:00

    It seems that the Optiplex 960 has the Core 2 Quad processor.  That came out around quarter 1, 2007. 

    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/desktop-and-all-in-one-pcs/optiplex-960-desktop/spd/optiplex-960

    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/29765/intel-core-2-quad-processor-q6600-8m-cache-2-40-ghz-1066-mhz-fsb.html

    So, your machine was probably first sold in 2007 or 2008.

    The 9010 seems to have 2nd and 3rd generation processors.  So, you can find your processor on this list and then assume that the computer could have been sold something like within 2 years after that

    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/79666/legacy-intel-core-processors.html#@Desktop

     

  • speedstep

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    Posted March 31st, 2019 18:00

    The model years are fairly well known and documented.

    The GX620 is the transition machine that works from MSDOS to Windows 10.

    The 3020 7010 9010 is the last machine to support XP

    Windows 98 , XP  was 1997 to 2002

    Windows Vista Started in 2007

    Windows 7  Started in 2009

    Windows 8  Started in 2012

    Windows 10 Started in 2015.

    2013 9020
    2012 7010, 9010
    2011 390, 790, 990
    2010 380, 780, 980
    2009 360, 760, 960
    2008 755
    2007 745
    2006 GX620
    2005 GX280
    2004 GX270, 170L
    2002 GX260
    2001 GX240