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what is the basic Difference between open system and mainframe ?

what is the basic Difference between open system and mainframe ?

  • PedalHarder

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    Posted February 9th, 2011 17:00

    Here are a few key differences:

    - DISK format / geometry is different. Open uses FBA (Fixed Block Architecture), MF uses CKD (Count Key Data)

    - Connection between processor and storage... Open uses Fibre Channel/SCSI etc (SCSI commands). MF uses ESCON/FICON (PSW's - Program Status Words)

    - Character sets... Open uses ASCII, MF uses EBCDIC.

    - User interface is quite different.

    - Mainframe is IBM proprietary.

    - In Mainframe you always type in UPPER CASE

    - Mainframe admins:

    --- Will (in general) have less hair than open guys

    --- Will (in general) larger tummies than open guys

    --- Will not drink out of a cup with /dev/mug printed on it.

    --- May have plastic blow-up dinosaur sitting somewhere on their desk.

    OK, my tongue is planted in my cheek on those last points... I'm allowed coz I'm a mainframe guy :-)

    There are lots of difference really... What specifically are you wanting to know?

  • RRR

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    Posted February 10th, 2011 00:00

    Hahahaha, I especially like the /dev/mug ! Can I order that one anywhere ??

  • RobertDudley

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    Posted February 10th, 2011 06:00

    Google search to the rescue:

    http://www.cafepress.com/+dev+mugs

  • dynamox

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    Posted February 10th, 2011 06:00

    ahh ..so true, it might be the next hot skill to have

  • dynamox

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    Posted February 10th, 2011 06:00

    i don't know about all that, banking, healthcare ..still live and kicking and not going anywhere.

    RobertDudley wrote:

    You also forgot that most mainframers are near retirement.

  • RobertDudley

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    Posted February 10th, 2011 06:00

    You also forgot that most mainframers are near retirement.

    Open systems people have no idea what channel end device end means.

    RRR -- if you find a mug send me the URL so I can order one too please.

  • RobertDudley

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    Posted February 10th, 2011 06:00

    dynamox not the hardware the people - mainframer = person who is mainframe centric.

    And i agree the mainframe itself isnt going anywhere anytime soon; they are too big and heavy.

  • RRR

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    Posted February 10th, 2011 08:00

    Hahaha. Too big and heavy.... LOL

    They did that on purpose !

  • dynamox

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    Posted February 10th, 2011 09:00

    RRR wrote:

    the ability to lift these dynosaurs out of the data center ?

    what are you talking about ? Our mainframe is sexy and agile . I bet you can't say the same thing about your HPUX box that keeps droppig paths. hehe

  • RRR

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    Posted February 10th, 2011 09:00

    the ability to lift these dynosaurs out of the data center ?