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May 19th, 2014 11:00

Expand Raid Group Full

Hi all,

I have  Raids Groups whit any space available, but I have in the storage some disk "unbound".

raid_group_1.jpg

disk_raid_g.jpg

all Disks that forming this Raid Group  are:

Bus 0 Enclosure 0

My question is, can I expand one Raid Group whit this any   "unbound" Disk with another Bus x  Enclosure x ?

For example expand with:

1 disk --> Bus 1 Enclosure 2 ??

disk_unbound.jpg

Thanks

  • dynamox

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    Posted May 19th, 2014 11:00

    is this a VNX ? You cant' expand raid groups on VNX, you would have to create a brand new RAID group and utilize Meta functionality.

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    Posted May 19th, 2014 18:00

    Refer to EMC KB article emc269369,

    Symptom    Cannot expand
    a RAID group on the VNX Series.

    Cause      The RAID
    group expansion feature was removed from VNX OE 05.31.

    Fix        An expansion can be done with metaLUNs or Pool LUNs.

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    Posted May 20th, 2014 06:00

    yes, you can expand RG with disks from other enclosures, do consider this (from Clariion BP whitepaper) :

    Binding with DPE drives

    In a total power-fail scenario, the SPS (standby power supply) supplies battery-backed power to the SPs and vault disks. This allows the storage system to save the contents of the write cache to disk.

    However, the power to the non-vault disk storage system enclosures (DAEs) is not maintained. When the storage system reboots, LUNs that had I/O outstanding are checked, using the background verify process, to verify that no writes in progress resulted in partial completions. The background verify is a fairly low-intensity process.

    However, a LUN bound with some drives in the vault enclosure (DPE or first DAE, depending on the model) and with some drives outside of the vault enclosure may require a rebuild, which is a more disk-intensive process. This affects performance to some degree on reboot.

    To avoid a rebuild on boot, create groups with all disks either in or out of the vault enclosure. If groups are split, follow these guidelines:

    1. Do not split RAID 1 groups across the vault enclosure and another DAE.

    2. For parity RAID (RAID 5, RAID 3), make sure at least two drives are outside the vault enclosure.

    3. For RAID 1/0, make sure at least one mirror (both the primary and secondary drive in a pair) is outside the vault enclosure.

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    Posted May 20th, 2014 06:00

    EMC Clariion CX4-480  Model

    Flare Operating Environment  04.30.000.5.525

    Unisphere

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    Posted May 20th, 2014 06:00

    no matter if expando RG formed with the following disks:

    Bus 0 Enclosure 0

    Bus 0 Enclosure 0

    Bus 0 Enclosure 0

    -----------------------------------

    And I add a disk "Unbound"

    Bus 1 Enclosure 2

    No need to be the same Bus and the same Enclosure, to expand a RG?

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    Posted May 20th, 2014 07:00

    what is the capacity of disks in the RG you are trying to expand ? Same capacity/speed as the unbound disk ?

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    Posted May 20th, 2014 07:00

    no

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    Posted May 20th, 2014 08:00

    Sorry, but why my SG will be grow only ~250G ? I have a "Unbound" disk that Capacity si 536 GB.

    It can cause a problem, that the capacities are different?

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    Posted May 20th, 2014 08:00

    I´s not the same capacity:

    Disk from RG: -> 258.403 Raw Capacity, Model : HUS15303 CLAR300


    Unbound  Disks: Raw Capacity: 536.808  Model: HUS15606 CLAR600

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    Posted May 20th, 2014 08:00

    it's not a problem, it's just all members of a raid group have to consume the same amount of space ..so the raid group will ignore the fact that this drive has an additional 250G worth of space.