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January 25th, 2004 08:00

External PS/2 Mouse Problem

Basically, this is a mouse that can connect either via USB (default) and also has a USB-PS/2 converter.

So I connected via USB and that worked well for months.

Then something bad happened.  The only time I've ever dropped the laptop happened with the mouse plugged in the USB port, and it bent it in some way.  Ever since, I've had to plug in the USB mouse "the right way" and wiggle it until the Infrared light on the mouse came on and stayed on.  Then I knew it was working, and as long as it didn't wiggle out of position, it was fine.

Anyway, the amount of wiggling and maneuvering to get the mouse to work in the USB port has increased over time, and finally, I can't get it to work in the USB port anymore.

So now I'm trying to get it to work via PS/2.  However, it doesn't seem to be working.

It worked once, but now I've moved the laptop to a new location (unplugged the mouse), and now I can't get it to work again.

The software for the mouse is correctly installed, as is the software for Synaptics touchpad (both latest versions as well).  Basically, the external mouse software will only work if it detects the mouse; I can't install the software unless Windows realizes the mouse is there.  I say 'install the software', but it's already installed...it just won't /work/ unless it can detect the mouse.

Now, if I plug the mouse in via the USB-PS/2 converter while the computer is on, the infrared light comes on and works perfectly.  So to me, that means that the cord works, that the mouse has power, that the socket works, that everything should be working.  But one of the bad things about the PS/2 connection is that it only detects the mouse when booting up.

If I turn off the computer, and boot up, the infrared light does NOT come on, the mouse is not detected by windows, the touchpad is used (even though BIOS says to ignore touchpad when a PS/2 mouse is present), and basically it's as if the thing isn't plugged in at all.  I can plug it in while it's turned on, verify that the infrared light is on, and reboot the computer even (the light stays on and it still isn't detected), but if I shut down, and turn off the power, the mouse will not be 'turned on' or detected when the computer boots up again.

I wondered if the USB-PS/2 connection needed 'wiggling' to align properly, but like I said, when it's plugged into the PS/2, the light comes on and stays on, so to me, that's "connected".

I'm wondering what my options are.  I have no other USB devices, so I can't test the ports.  I haven't tested an alternative PS/2 mouse yet, but I could if I needed to (I'd have to borrow one from another computer).  I'd rather not spend money on anything (new mouse, external USB port, replacement internal USB port, etc.)  I don't feel like I should have to, as it DID work on the PS/2 port once (the light would come on when computer booted up, detected by windows, touchpad turned off, everything as it should be).  However it did take a bit of doing to get it to work and I forgot what I did that solved the problem then.  As I recall, it just randomly started working when I booted the computer (I had given up, but left it plugged in the PS/2 port, and was using the touchpad).

When I'm trying to plug it into the USB port, or when it boots up with the PS/2 port (and isn't detected), the infrared light will come on for the splittest of seconds, but won't stay on and the mouse won't work.  I have no idea what this means.

One final thing, in case it relates in any way.  The computer's battery has gone bad (it's still in there though because it looks ugly having a hole there), and it runs on AC power only.  But like I said, it worked in the PS/2 port before, so I don't know why it shouldn't again, simply because I unplugged it.

I've been getting by with the touchpad for basic Windows applications, but the external mouse is incredibly useful for things like video games where the extra 3 buttons, the mousewheel, and the fact that I can have my hands further apart and am just more precise and faster with an external mouse all make using the touchpad a joke in comparison.

If I find my own answer to this problem, or if someone gives an answer that works, I will reply and say so.  If this post does not have a reply from me, then the problem is still unanswered.

 

EDIT: System Specs

Windows ME

Inspiron 8100 (I know my system tag if it's okay to give it)

Any other system specs really needed for this problem?  I don't think so, but if so, just ask.

Message Edited by Thortok2000 on 01-25-2004 05:49 AM

  • DELL-BobT

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    Posted January 26th, 2004 17:00

    Thortok2000,

    Thank you for using the Dell Community Forum.

    I think you know that the motherboard is damaged because of the system having been dropped.  The repair for this will not be covered under warranty.  The warranty on all system batteries is for one year from the purchase date.  Regarding the ports on the systrem, I would suggest testing the motherboard by running it through the Dell diagnostic test.

    Place the System Software CD in your computer. Reset the machine and when the Dell logo appears on the screen, press and release [F2] several times until you are in the BIOS. Press the right arrow key to go to the BOOT menu or hold [Alt] and [P] simultaneously to progress to the second page. Change the boot sequence to CD/DVD drive, Floppy drive, Internal HDD. Now press [Esc] or [F10] to save and exit the BIOS.

    The following knowledge base article can help you with this:

    How to run the Dell diagnostic test knowledge base article.

    The program should automatically load. Choose to run the test on the motherboard.

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    Posted January 27th, 2004 07:00

    I did the system diagnostics like you said, but there was no 'Motherboard' option.

     

    I did something I think said 'system board', ran every test in it, and they all passed.

     

    After the computer got dropped, I went and got it checked and they said it didn't look like there was any drop damage.  It didn't drop far, (about 3 feet from the bed), it was mostly because it landed right on the corner that the USB cord was plugged into that it bent that (it actually landed on the cord itself, right next to the computer, which also softened the impact).  And it worked fine even then, you just had to plug it in at the same angle it was when it got bent.  It was only over time that they seemed to be harder to plug into.

    So I honestly don't think it's a motherboard problem.  If anything, it's a conflict in the PS/2 port.  Perhaps if I unplugged the touchpad from the motherboard, it could only detect the PS/2 mouse?  Would that screw up anything?  I don't use the touchpad unless the external mouse isn't working anyway, so I'm fine with leaving it unplugged.

    I also tested the USB ports and they passed.  It seems that the ports /work/, they're just bent so that they're so far away from the casing that when I plug the cord in, it doesn't reach the socket.  I think.  Maybe.  Who knows?  That's why I'm here asking.  If push comes to shove, I'll open up the case and see if I can very, very gently bend those ports back to a better position, and try that, but that's the last option.

    Problem: Unsolved, awaiting another answer.

    Message Edited by Thortok2000 on 01-27-2004 04:51 AM