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February 2nd, 2004 18:00

Cannot use plug-in for audio in Mozilla Firebird.

I managed to install flash, Java, and active X in my Firebird browser.

I have Quicktime, Realplayer (came with AOL) and Windows media player 9.

If I put in a link to a wav or wma, the browser opens a QT plyer to play the audio.

BUT, if a webpage contains pics, java, AND has embedded sound, it won't play.

I tried to download the QT plug-in, but when I get to the final Download page, nothing happens, and there is no link to click to begin downloading.

I can still use IE and AOL, but it would be nice to be able to play embedded media in Firebird. Any ideas? Thanks!!!
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    Posted February 2nd, 2004 23:00

    Msil,

    Depends on what directory you installed Firebird and a specific made for firebird plugins registry file.

    You will also need to reinstall Real Player, Quicktime, shockwave if you want them. AOLs already installed plugins do not count. ;-)

    Instructions here:

    http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/phoenixwin.html
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    Posted February 3rd, 2004 00:00

    Firebird is installed in C:\Program files

    I entered the registry data after uninstalling Quicktime, then I reinstalled quicktime. The plug-in worked in AOL, after downloading "Musical Instruments" from QT.

    But in firebird, there is a hole where the player should be.

    Also, a webpage like this won't play background music in Firebird for me. It works in IE and AOL.

    Applets, and flash work in Firebird as well as a diect link to a wav file. Such as: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/bltnomad/gramps.wav

    So, if I want to save stuff from the TIF, and play music in the webpage, I'll have to use AOL or IE.
    (That seems to be another problem with firebird, cannot clear internet cache except from within Firebird)

    Still, Firebird is pretty cool. Improvements would be to include all the plug-ins that IE has in the download.
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    Posted February 3rd, 2004 03:00

    Confirmed for that URL with Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031015 Firebird/0.7 (aebrahim) (From Help/About). The "gramps" link works OK, but for the link at riversongs I get the lake applet running but not the music.

    But the HTML is flawed, according to this validator, in a variety of ways. One of the "problems" with Firebird is that it expects the HTML to adhere to the published specifications, and doesn't make very many guesses when it doesn't.

    Lots of the reported errors are a result of a DTD specification that doesn't match the HTML, but some aren't.

    I *think* ProV1's latest material works in Firebird, but I can't find a link to the version that has the background sound in it! You may have to ask him in the Graphics/Sig testing board.

    What plugins are you having problems with? I don't think that one's an example of a plugins problem.

    Jim
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    Posted February 3rd, 2004 06:00

    msil,

    Also, a webpage like this won't play background music in Firebird for me. It works in IE and AOL.

    It's a .MIDI file.

    And right, ditto here.

    What happens when you click on Dan Manley's MIDI in his DCF sig? (Last I saw him he was in the Windows 98 room)

    His Apollo 13 MIDI opens up in WMP and plays. FB asks permission first, no biggie, I can get rid of that in Options.

    Hey, nice this www.riversongs.com. Are they free?

    Have you checked out the Firebird forum over there?

    ghb

    Message Edited by gothummingbird on 02-03-2004 03:23 AM

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    Posted February 3rd, 2004 11:00

    This may seem obvious, but when I went to RiverSongs.com I had to crank up the volume setting substantially to hear the audio, compared to other sites.

    Bill-
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    Posted February 3rd, 2004 12:00

    msil,

    With respect to Realplayer, you need two files

    1. npnul32.dll
    2. nppl3260.dll


    To ascertain if you have them, go into your Firebird plugins folder with your File Options set to view all files. Those two files are hidden.

    If you do not have them, at least the nppl3260.dll can be obtained from here. A month ago, the npul32.dll existed there too, but where it went I do not know.

    If you can not find it, I suppose I could try to copy mine and make it available somehow.
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    Posted February 3rd, 2004 12:00

    Thanks, everyone. GHB, Riversongs is a free site.

    About the music: If I go to a site that is like:
    http://mywebpage.netscape.com/bltnomad/gramps.wav

    Quicktime opens with a slim looking player to play the audio.

    But if I go to a site that has embedded music (and probably video) there is no sound played.

    Xley, I might try thay other .DLL if I can get it from you, but would that fix the music not playing in webpages problem?

    I didn't download Realplayer, but Quicktime.

    Go to my site here:
    http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BltNomad/HFH.html

    When I open this site in Firebird, The audio player cannot be seen, there is a rectangle hole where the player should be, and no audio.
    Can't press the play button on the player if the player doesn't show up.

    I think maybe my Active -X isn't right in Firebird. I installed the Neptune .dll,so that I can run tests in PC pitstop. But it failed to show the clock in the active-x test. It was just blank.

    Like I said, if there are no real solutions, I can still use IE or AOL to visit the special websites.
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    Posted February 3rd, 2004 15:00

    msil,

    Beats me. I do not use my Firebird much anymore.

    There are a number of posts on the Firebird forum concerning matters of sound. Perhaps you should investigate over there. Bill is probably right about the coding. I remember reading Firebird postings regarding coding issues.

    When I go to your BltNomad site in Firebird, I do not see the mediaplayer, nor do I see a blank space where the player ought to be.
    However, when I go to the site in IE, everything works as you have planned.

    xley
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    Posted February 3rd, 2004 19:00

    msil,

    I tried your site in FB and right, it left a gap for a plugin.

    I have not tried xleys suggestion yet for Real Player .dlls.

    In the meantime of a cure, download the extention that allows you to quickly open any link and page in IE with a right click.

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    Posted February 4th, 2004 06:00

    Thanks, and GHB, I tried that IE thing again, and it worked this time. The problem I had with it before is after I installed it, my imported IE favoites wouldn't open in Firebird.

    People were always saying how great Firebird was, I downloaded it a few months ago.(Dec.16) I saved the zip file. I tried it out before, but didn't like the idea of having to install all of the plug-ins, so I uninstalled it. But I kept hearing how great it was, and I did like the tabbed browsing. MYIE2 was OK, but took up more room at the top.
    It also had tabbed browsing, and everything worked as it was the same as IE, but "souped up".

    But now, I do like Mozilla Firebird, despite the limitations. Now, if they would only come out with Firebird with all of the functionality of IE.


    P.S. Also, the graphic editor is not available at Dell using Firebird.