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June 8th, 2008 23:00

Networking Vista to XP

I recently networked a new Inspiron 1525 (running Vista HP) to a Dimension 4550 desktop (running XPpro) via a Dlink DIR655 wireless router. Have a slight issue. The Desktop (I assume) is probably the master browser since it is left on most of the time and the 1525 is set to sleep/standby OR is turned OFF. The thing is that when the 1525 awakes or is turned ON and re-establishes a connection to the network neither the 1525 nor the 4550 can navigate to a shared file/folder. The pop up window error:
"WORKGROUP" is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource.
The following error is found in the event log:
The browser was unable to retrieve a list of servers from the browser master \\ME on the network \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_
(\\ME = the 1525)

The only workaround I have used up until now is to stop and restart the Computer Browser sevice (which I assume is "cycling"). Once restarted everything is fine.

 

I'll be more than happy to supply any other info.

Open to suggestions,
Thanks

  • GreyMack

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    Posted June 9th, 2008 01:00

    This may be related, although the page wouldn't scroll smoothly in Firefox for me.

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/135404


    GM
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    Posted June 9th, 2008 15:00

    Thanks for the reply GreyMack.

    Unfortunately I've been to that page. I've tried disabling the Comp Browser on both pc's

    ...no go. I've tried disabling one or the other. I've tried setting either one to manual. I've tried

    the registry hack at HKEY\Local Machine.....Permissions > IsDomainMaster TRUE

    MaintainServerList Yes.

     

    After re-reading my post I can clearly see that the 1525 is set to Master Browser so I am inclined

    to believe that this may be the wrong forum as it seems that this may be a vista issue.

    There're more services running on 1525 that may have to be disabled.

     

    Is it bad policy to cross post? 

  • Larry R

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    Posted June 9th, 2008 17:00

    In the past when I've seen problems like this it is because the two computers have differing configurations for the network.  The easiest solution to this is to run the Network Setup Wizard (aka "Set up a home or small office network") on both computers at the same time, giving them the exact same configuration ("I connect to the internet through a residential gateway" which is your router).  The only exception to "exact same configuration" is that each computer has to have a unique Computer Name (e.g., Desktop and Notebook).  Once that is done, reboot both computers and wait about a minute for them to finish starting up the networking services.  If it is configured right, they should be able to see each other (assuming you don't have a firewall on either one blocking the connection).
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    Posted June 9th, 2008 18:00

    Thanks Larry.

     

    I have no problem right now "seeing" each other on the network. The problem surfaces when the 1525 goes into standby or is turned off. The 1525 has assumed the role of master browser and I need to apply that title to the 4550. Would running the wizard solve this issue?

     

    Thanks again 

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    Posted June 9th, 2008 19:00

    Well, that didn't work. After rebooting I waited about 10min then rebooted the 1525 and still had to stop and restart the comp browser (on the 4550) to connect to the 1525. This is what's leading me to believe it is a vista related issue.

     

    Like I've stated above this will work fine until the 1525 goes into stanby and disconnects.

    Upon reconnection of the 1525 the 4550 CB will have to be manually cycled. 

    I'm just relieved at this point that I'm not dealing with an office environment. At this point I'd have everyone reformatting and reinstalling just to bide the time :]

     

    I guess I'll try the Vista wizard for now.

     

     

    Thanks Again

  • Larry R

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    Posted June 9th, 2008 19:00

    I'm not sure if the Network Setup Wizard would help that or not.

     

    In the past when I've personally run into problems with the browse-master selection, I powered off all the involved computers then powered on the one I wanted to be the master first.  Once it was up and able to connect to the internet I would then power on all of the other computers.  When the others start up the check the network for a master, and seeing it do not set themselves as the master.

     

    On a similiar note, I have taken half a dozen systems (test lab) and when I would power them up together a random system would end up being the master, which played havoc with file sharing.  That situation is what prompted me to use the method detailed above to "specify" a master system on the local network.

     

    There are probably better ways to do it, but it worked for what I as doing at the time. 

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    Posted June 9th, 2008 20:00

    I may have the missing peice.

    According to the network map on the 1525 (Vista) the 4550 (XPpro) can not be placed in the map. According to the MS website it mentions LLTD, but this box has SP3 which (I think) installed this already so it must be something else. I'll keep this thread updated.

    OTOH this may not be related at all.

     

    Get those OS disc's out people :] 

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    Posted June 9th, 2008 21:00

    Yup, last time I tried was 3 posts ago.

    Anyway I believe the LLTD protocol (kb922120) I have is for SP2 thus not installing.

    I've tried extracting the files from the windowsXP-KB922120-v5-x86-ENU.exe file without success.

    I'm looking around for those files....... maybe I'll get lucky. 

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    Posted June 9th, 2008 21:00

    Well, the 1525 has the LLTD protocol installed, but I don't see it installed on the 4550. So, I tried to install it and the popup window states that SP3 is installed and not needed.

    At this point I'm stumped. 

  • Larry R

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    Posted June 9th, 2008 21:00

    Have you tried powering down both computers, starting the 4550 and giving it 10 - 15 minutes to realise it is in charge of the network, and then starting the 1525?