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Holdenv

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June 21st, 2018 13:00

Major Latitude 7390 problems

Hello All,

Ive come to see if anyone else has any issues with the 7390s we recently bought a Lot of 30 of them and even more recently another Lot of 40.  Well for the past month we probably have had at least two a week fail.  Ive been opening up support cases for each one and it seems like the mobo needs replaced everytime one of them fails.  

Well after opening up cases on the most recent two I decided to take a closer look at the board it seems like the same chip is burning up on both the toasted laptops I have in my posession at the moment.  Im not sure how closely Dell support looks at this site but this is a serious issue.

I run a small shop so dealing with two laptop failures a week along with this happening the same time my windows 10 migration is happening has been really taxing. 

Also the main equalizer seems that they are all failing when on the thunderbolt dock.  We have filtered and stable power so power is also not the problem. 

 

 

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  • Robert P (retired)

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    Posted June 22nd, 2018 04:00

    Hi Holdenv,

    Thanks for posting.  Apologies that your systems are not performing as expected.

    This Forum is primarily Consumer related, and it sounds like if you are able to purchase that many units at one time that you must be a Commercial customer.  As a Commercial customer, you will have a Dell Technical Account Manager assigned to your company.  Please contact your TAM and let them know your experience, so they can contact the development team for further investigation.

    If you need further assistance or are unable to locate your TAM, please contact me privately and include at least one of the Service Tag numbers.  Thanks.


    Robert P (retired)

  • cwbunting

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    Posted June 25th, 2018 06:00

    Same problem, I had my 7390 burn up the exact same way now for a THIRD time this morning... It typically happens over the weekend, I come in and find it burnt and no power... I'm calling support now, they need to recall this model or come up with a fix! So far replacing the board 3 times has not cleared this up.

  • Holdenv

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    Posted June 25th, 2018 08:00

    I apologize I wasn't aware this site was for consumers only considering the Latitude series is primarily for enterprises.  I just mainly was wondering if anyone else was having an issue with the 7390 we are in touch with our TAM though thanks for the suggestion. 

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    Posted June 25th, 2018 08:00

    Also comparing photos, I do not see the burn marks on my mosfet chip like yours, but what I do see is the power inductor getting extremely hot, melting the covering plastic on both of our units... the inductor should NOT be getting this hot, which tells me the core is saturating. I think this could be related to the failure of the mostfet power module (the burnt up chip in your pic).... I did note that the SMD regulators seem to have some evidence that they over-heated and caused the flux on the board to bubble a bit around them

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    Posted June 25th, 2018 08:00

    Obviously this is a wide-spread issue, but no one at dell seems to care. You have had many fail, I have had 3 failures... Support only suggests replacing the board again.... but they haven't done anything to actually correct this issue from happening. My advice would be to stay away from the 7390 until dell re-releases the system board with an actual fix.

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    Posted June 25th, 2018 12:00

     We're approaching 25% failure rate on a fleet of 43 Latitude 7390s that we just deployed late March/early April. Literally - while the service tech was here replacing 4 logic boards, we had another unit go down with bad bluescreening errors.

    And of the four just fixed, one is dead after its first restart - no video. One is exhibiting the same choppy cursor that usually indicates its going to go back to frequent bluescreening. And the third 'repaired' model is warning that a USB device is drawing more power than the unit can supply. No USB devices are attached.

    We're having issues with over 50% of our TB16 docks as well - the USB ports start to fail sporadically, then die altogether.

    The support tech who was here did almost nothing by the book, and I think he had the flu on top of it so we had to take extra time to sanitize everything he touched.

    With the user downtime and stress to the IT department workload, these are officially more expensive to own that Macbooks. Which my users clamor for anyway. Dell is not making it easier to stay in the Windows world, that's for sure.

    Good times!

  • cwbunting

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    Posted June 25th, 2018 12:00

    Wow, it's astonishing to me that Dell isn't doing anything about this obvious issue with this model, other than telling us that this community is for home users....

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    Posted June 25th, 2018 14:00

    So, latest update on what Dell says it's going: It's an Intel issue, and they have a team on each side working together towards a resolution. Great. How long will THAT take? I find it very difficult to believe this is not a pure hardware issue versus a driver issue. We have too many machines that still haven't failed yet, all running the exact same software and Dell driver versions (nothing fancy - Chrome, O365, WebRoot, metro apps removed; no iTunes or superfluous third-party; on-prem WSUS). And we can replicate crashes in a basic, fresh-out-of-the box environment too.

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    Posted June 27th, 2018 11:00

    Tech just got done putting my 3rd system board in my 7390 today. he said he just replaced one earlier with the same problem... Unfortunately the FRU board was the same revision as the one being replaced, so I don't hold high hopes this isn't going to happen again in a month.

  • Holdenv

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    Posted June 27th, 2018 12:00

    I just heard from a Dell engineer and they are trying to pin down the issue but I am reverting back to my out-of-warranty E7240s.  I just cancelled my second order of 40 and I just bought 3 different competitors laptops with their docks to test and see if they have any issues.  All in all this is a big enough mess up that I dont think I am willing to take another $100k gamble at the moment especially since I am such a small shop.