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T3600 NMVe upgrade won’t boot
Yes I’m still holding onto my T3600 and thought I would just upgrade my SSD to a Kingston T1000 kit. Easier said then done.
I installed Win 10 Pro but can’t boot to it. I can use some help here for I’m not quite understanding the complete process or it’s not compatible. Updated the bios to A17. Set the BIOS boot devices to UEFI. Booted my ISO UEFI via CD ROM and created a GPT partition. Win 10 did the install and rebooted. Got the error message, F1 to retry, F2 for setup. In the BIOS, Win 10 added the Microsoft Boot Manager as the UEFI startup device. Follows by the UEFI CD/DVD/ROM.
My bios doesn’t have secure boot, but I don’t think that matters. It just turned off so it really doesn’t exist. I don’t have CFM whatever that is. I think the Microsoft Boot Manager exist on the C drive of my installation, which makes me think it can’t read it.
Oh, I have the T1000 kit in the first slot which is PCI3 x8, above the video card. That should suffice for x4+ Any help would be appreciated, I really want to get this going if possible. And I did just get schooled in UEFI and GPT.
Extra facts: I can boot the win 10 iso and use the command prompt to cruise the C drive. Can run diskpart and stuff. I’m just missing something here. I searched the web and didn’t find much for T3600.
- That didn’t work. /l/f Here’s my conclusion: The UEFI can’t see the NVMe drive, so it can’t load the EFI file on the NVMe drive. C:\windows\boot\EFI as a stand-alone drive /l/f Works fine as a companion drive, as long as it can read some other drive for the EFI file. So the T3600 can read CDROM, SATA, SAS, USB. /l/f Guess I’ll buy a new machine next year or maybe around Xmas time
@Jkirkerx wrote:
That didn’t work.
If UEFI/AHCI doesn't work ...
Then (as the linked post says) you can instead try UEFI/ (Single Disk) RAID-Mode
Load Intel-F6 drivers, etc.
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- Click "Mark as Accepted Answer" on any post that answers your question best.I thought the AHCI was for the SATA controller, and the SAS/RAID was for the; well the SAS controller. This Kingston T1000 kit is one of those thin SSD boards that clips into a black colored riser card for PCIE x4. It plugs right into the PCIE bus. Since it’s on the bus it’s not part of any disk controller. It’s completely independent. I was going to get the Dell Quad SSD made by Foxconn. But now I suspect it would produce the same result. I’m just going to get another SATA SSD and plug it into the SAS controller and be glad it works, but install it as a UEFI device and not Legacy.
@Jkirkerx wrote:
I thought the AHCI was for the SATA controller,
Good catch. :Yes:
Not sure why it affects how PCIe/NVMe SSDs are detected and used, but it seems to (at least on other Dell machine models). You were trying to get a PCIe/NVMe SSD to detect, so I thought I would mention it.
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@Jkirkerx wrote:
I’m just going to get another SATA SSD and plug it into the SAS controller and be glad it works, but install it as a UEFI device and not Legacy.
Yeah, not sure what's going on with the Kingston-T1000, sorry. My 2.5inch SATA Kingstons work great.
But I agree, even a SATA-3/600 SSD is pretty fast compared to spinning-HDD (usually 4-5 times faster).
Running (even) a nice computer without Windows on a SSD is pretty painful these days for me (so I never do it). :Smile:
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@Tesla1856 wrote:
@Jkirkerx wrote:
I’m just going to get another SATA SSD and plug it into the SAS controller and be glad it works, but install it as a UEFI device and not Legacy.
Yeah, not sure what's going on with the Kingston-T1000, sorry. My 2.5inch SATA Kingstons work great.
But I agree, even a SATA-3/600 SSD is pretty fast compared to spinning-HDD (usually 4-5 times faster).
Running (even) a nice computer without Windows on a SSD is pretty painful these days for me (so I never do it). :Smile:
Agreed. I got a Kingston UV500 960 and it works pretty good. Boy that T1000 was 5 times faster. Would of made my T3600 run like a Baggati super car.
Concluded that if you can’t load the UFI file on the new drive from the BIOS, it won’t work. But I may of been able to move that UFI boot file to a D drive and point back to the C drive.
Oh well. It is what it is.
Hi @Jkirkerx ,
Bad news: T3600 motherboard do not support NVMe boot as mentioned above by others, in tradition way.
Good news: You may try an non-tradition way by Clover boot method, details here.
I suffer from same problem when working on my T5600. After long research, it works now. In fact such method works on any PCs with PCIe slot (for installing NVMe adapter). I even try it on a ancient Core2Due HP desktop successfully. See if it helps. Good luck!
P.S. T3600/T5600 motherboard is quite tricky in terms of PCIe slots and BIOS versions when working with NVMe PCIe adapter. You should be able to get all information needed in the quoted post.
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Your best bet it to set machine to UEFI and AHCI.
Only SSD connected.
Clean install Windows to blank/raw SSD.
The "Windows Boot Manager" configures itself. Partition type MBR/GPT is decided and done by Windows installer automatically.
https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/M-2-NVMe-bootable-options/td-p/6073037
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