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April 24th, 2015 03:00

Isilon MCP feature

Where can I find details of what the role of MCP is in Isilon

Been through the web administrator guide, security guide and cli guide and cannot find any sort of explanation for what this does. Have also gone through the VILT student notes and still see no reference however is it referenced and question are asked about it in the online assessments for Isilon diagnostic and trouble shooting assessment  as well in other Isilon tests

Is there a better reference or can somebody explain this feature

  • kipcranford

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    Posted April 24th, 2015 06:00

    Ah, an Isilon feature from the early days.  When originally written, MCP stood for "Master Control Program", and bonus points for anyone noting the significance.

    As for its functionality... the fundamental job of MCP is to keep Isilon-specific configurations synchronized amongst the nodes, which it tries to do transactionally.  MCP is the reason an admin can manipulate a OneFS configuration via a single node's WebUI or CLI and have that change automatically propagated to all the nodes in the cluster.  MCP monitors various directories within /etc/mcp/ on the local nodes for configuration changes, and each node's MCP daemon (being a peer with all other MCP daemons) can coordinate a configuration change if needed.

    I'm not sure if there is any document written that specifically covers MCP in detail, but this is the gist...

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    Posted April 24th, 2015 07:00

    Ok that makes sense of the questions I saw in a online assessment

    Which two (2) best describe the role of the MCP

    Manages Daemons

    Manages cluster coordinator status

    How did OneFS 7.0 change the MCP action list answer being it reduced the delay between actions

    Which node runs the MCP - node with the lowest LNN only

    It also may explain why it is not mentioned other than in reference from the file names in terms of altering settings to make config changes in both the web administration guide and the cli configuration guide

    Not even really mention other than in the exams which probably point to the fact that the available online assessment I was using as a way to revise for the e20-357 exam

    Isilon Diagnostic and Troubleshooting Assessment has these type of question in it was looking for a definitive reference other than vague references to etc/mcp file and folders

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    Posted April 24th, 2015 08:00

    > Manages Daemons

    Yeah, I forgot to explicitly mention this.  In addition to keeping configurations synchronized, isi_mcp (that's the daemon) also monitors other Isilon service daemons (essentially the ones known to "isi services") and will automatically restart them if they die or are killed for some reason.

    > Which node runs the MCP - node with the lowest LNN only

    Taken out of context this sounds a bit misleading to me.  In actuality, every node runs isi_mcp; the node with the lowest LNN is just chosen as the "master".  If the lowest-LNN node is down or otherwise unavailable, all the remaining isi_mcp daemons will choose a new master (which I believe is just the next lowest-LNN node)...

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    Posted April 24th, 2015 10:00


    That is just the way the question is worded in the exam

    You are correct from what I understand of how this work if the master node does go down it move to the next lowest LNN numbered node

    That is in fact another question in the bank if I remember correctly but again it is just not tied together in any of the document in a laid out way

    Just questions in the banks and references to files under the folder etc/mcp no real details in any of the documents

    There are several knowledge base articles around this but I do not have the correct access to read them

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    Posted April 27th, 2015 16:00

    Tron.  I recall there being a couple of slides in some training a while ago, but nothing in the current versions.

    I have to rush back to Flynn's now...  

    END OF LINE.


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    Posted May 5th, 2015 07:00

    That is what I am trying to find

    Have gone through the VILT notes / Isilon Foundation SRG complete notes plus each of the main document

    One FS Security Configuration Guide

    OneFS Command reference

    OneFS Web Administration guide

    OneFS cli administration guides

    as well as a number of white papers available for Isilon but it does not show this however if you take the online exam for Isilon covering the VILT training for the product Isilon Diagnostic and Trouble shooting Assessment (MR-1ZP-ISIDT) it has 3 related question covering MCP in it

    This off course could be an older exam and not been updated but went through each question and complied notes for each and this is the only area where I could not really find any actual details in my revision for the e20-357 exam etc

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    Posted May 13th, 2015 11:00

    The recommended training for the E20-357  Isilon Solutions Specialist Exam for Implementation Engineers includes:

    • Isilon Fundamentals (eLearning)
    • Isilon Installation and Initial Configuration (eLearning)
    • Isilon Implementation (Course available as ILT, Online ILT, Video ILT and Video ILT - Stream)

    You can find the full exam description here: https://education.emc.com/content/_common/docs/exam_descriptions/E20_357_IE_Isilon_Solutions_exam.pdf

    Have you taken all of these courses? The exams are based on the recommended training course materials.

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    Posted May 14th, 2015 00:00

    Kate

    Passed the E20-357 exam, the MCP question was really from a different online exam from EMC that I used in preparation for the E20-357 exam

    Basically I have partner status for the EMC  training and am able to access a lot of the online training via this.

    I did go through all related training and it was whilst going through the online training that I noticed additional EMC online practice test .

    These three exams  are available as separate online assessments for Isilon in the eLearning training there are also two additional assessment which are related to a boot camp you can take.

    MR-1SP-ISIAM - Isilon Administration and Management Assessment

    MR-1ZP-ISIDT - Isilon Diagnostics and Troubleshooting Assessment

    MR-1ZP-ISIII - Isilon Implementation assessment

    I used these  to re-enforce my eLearning and Isilon general knowledge as part of the exam prep and it is in these I noticed the question around MCP

    I went through all the student notes for the VILT and eLearning  for Isilon and it did not have any details that I could find

    I also looked through all related documentation for the Isilon from the Solve Desktop and configuration guides in building the notes I used in preparation for the exam just could not find a full explanation in any of the slides or the documents etc that I was happy with

    I even download and went through all the online help guide for Isilon

    What the Master Control Process does is easy to understand but was building some training notes and exam preparation notes for myself and future reference etc and like to add links to where the details are in EMC  documentation as references and for later.

    There are a lot of question in the E20-357 exam that can be easily missed in terms of the details in the VILT training, to successfully pass this exam you need to go through the training extremely carefully and in detail paying attention to all related slides notes in both the fundamental and VILT training.

    Particularly the major aspect is file access as you would expect so Module four of the VILT is a key factor in passing the exam I found

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    Posted May 15th, 2015 11:00

    Michael,

      First of all, thank you for keeping the conversation going and documenting your thoughts and issues with the process here.

    I am on the training development team for Isilon and while I did not participate in the creation of the exam you were looking at I have been engaged in the discussion about what to cover with MCP or not.  In most cases now, as you have discovered, it's an internal component that is not discussed in any significant detail in documentation, and at an administrative level it's not a component that you are really going to interact with on any kind of regular basis.  Only in extreme workflow circumstances or in significant troubleshooting situations might the MCP functions come up. 

    So as training content is developed and updated, there's been less emphasis on walking through MCP in all but the occasional diagnostic and troubleshooting type training.  My solution to your experience here may actually be going into the exam and pulling these questions as they aren't covered by the material as it stands today.

    What I would like to know from you or anyone else participating in this discussion, is there something about the MCP that you believe is of value for an administrator to know?  You've been searching to link or document the source to answer a question, but I want to flip that around.  Does the question and your knowing the answer help you?  Is it valuable?  If you believe it is, then perhaps we do need to look at training and ensure we cover it appropriately. 

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    Posted May 15th, 2015 14:00

    I don't think it is asking an Isilon Storage Administrator too much that they know about the existence of the isi_mcp process and that its job is a watchdog for crucial system tasks. I have many times taken advantage of that knowledge even if I wasn't aware of the mechanism of how MCP operates.