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November 3rd, 2006 15:00

Single switch system startup?

Good afternoon -
 
I have an admittedly very minor annoyance with my new system.  Just one more button to press on startup.  But I'm enough of a stubborn old cuss to at least try for a solution.
 
Just replaced our old,old Dimension T550, running Win 98SE, with a new Dimension E520.  The problem is that Win XP and/or the E520 don't seem to have a way around having the CPU's power button automatically set in the off position when you shut down the operating system.  Shutting down Win 98 left the CPU on (remember that "it is now safe to turn off your computer" screen?:smileyhappy:). This made it possible to power off and restart the CPU along with the monitor and peripherals with one flip of the switch on the surge protector they were all plugged into.
 
Any way to duplicate that functionality with the new system?
 
Thanks,
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  • x_lab rat

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    Posted November 3rd, 2006 16:00

    I vaguely remember a setting within Windows that selects what 'shutdown' does, but I can't tell you where to find it or even for sure that's what it does (since I never had occasion to use it).  If you find that, then set F2 'power recovery' to 'power on' and the system power will follow the protector switch.
     
    As it is, the monitor will shut itself off.  So will everything powered by its port (smaller USB gizmos).  Printers, can't say--mine doesn't follow system power, but it's 7 years old.
     
    I'm old and stubborn too.  I'll be the last person in the country with a cellphone, and I detest digital media.  But sometimes even codgers have to adapt (I'm sticking with analog music until they quit making replacement phono needles or I croak, whichever happens first).
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    Posted November 3rd, 2006 17:00

    I don't see where having to power it on is a big deal.  My system is on a UPS, not a power strip (much safer and better) and the UPS is on all the time. 
     
    BTW, I'm "old school" too as I've worked on or in computers since 1962 ("BPC" - Before Personal Computers). :smileyvery-happy:
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  • RoHe

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    Posted November 3rd, 2006 18:00

    Run BIOS setup (F2 before XP starts to load) and look for power options settings. On my 8400, there's option for what to do after power failure. Turning off power strip is like a power failure, so if I set it to reboot after failure, it boots when I turn on the power strip.

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    Posted November 3rd, 2006 20:00

    Thanks all for responding.  Just thought I ought to note what is probably a critical difference between rebooting after a power failure and what I was talking about.  The old Win 98 setup provided a way to safely shut down the windows operating system while still leaving the computer itself powered up.  At that point didn't matter a bit  whether you turned it off with the button on the front of the box or cut the power where it was plugged in.  Either way it booted up normally when it got power again.  No scan disk, dire warnings, etc.  By contrast, a power failure would not safely shut down windows, so I would think whatever problems that might cause would still apply, even though it restarted itself. 
     
    And I agree, its no big deal in any case.  Just takes two switches to power up the whole system instead of one.
     
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    Posted November 3rd, 2006 20:00

    One thing to remember, you are no longer in the Win98 environment.  Things have changed (whether for the better can be debateable in your case).  Also, WinXP no longer is DOS based so that is a major change in the way the PC operates.  WinXP has different hardware and software requirements than the older DOS based Operating Systems (win9x/Me).
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    Posted November 3rd, 2006 21:00

    Am I missing something?  You click shutdown, wait for 'it's now safe' then flip the switch, just like before.  Only difference is, computer goes off instead of saying '...safe'.  It's still click, wait, switch.
     
    If you F2 and set power recovery to 'on', you flip the switch and the whole thing starts up, just like before.  Not?

    Message Edited by x_lab rat on 11-03-2006 05:07 PM

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    Posted November 4th, 2006 00:00

    x_lab rat is almost correct. Click Start>Turn off computer>Turn off. XP safely exits, saves settings and powers the PC off automatically -you don't have to press the power button on front of the tower. Now you turn off the power strip. If "reboot after power failure" is On in BIOS, next time you turn the power strip back on, the PC boots. No muss no fuss...

    Ron

    Message Edited by RoHe on 11-03-2006 06:23 PM

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    Posted November 4th, 2006 02:00

    Is there an echo in here, or was Shakespeare getting in my way of saying that?  (Is it 'forsooth' or 'foresooth'?):smileyvery-happy:
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    Posted November 4th, 2006 22:00

    Hellooooooo, x-labrat! ;)
    Speaking forsoothly (it can be spelled either way), you said he'd have to push the PC's power switcht to shut down after logging off XP. All I wanted to say is that XP turns the PC off automatically by itself. You don't have to push the power switch.

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    Posted November 4th, 2006 23:00



    x_lab rat wrote:
    Am I missing something?  You click shutdown, wait for 'it's now safe' then flip the switch, just like before.  Only difference is, computer goes off instead of saying '...safe'.  It's still click, wait, switch.
     
    If you F2 and set power recovery to 'on', you flip the switch and the whole thing starts up, just like before.  Not?
     
    All my desktops operate in this manner, you are correct. 

    Message Edited by rickmktg on 11-04-2006 08:19 PM