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January 14th, 2021 12:00

Dell Precision 7510 run 2 4k monitors?

can a Dell Precision 7510 run 2 4k monitors?

I have the 7510 connected to an E-port plus

The monitors have display port and HDMI

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Warren.

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    Posted January 14th, 2021 14:00

    @warrenTDO  Yes, but assuming you want to use them at the standard 60 Hz rather than 30 Hz, there are some requirements:

    • You'd need a second generation E-Port Plus.  The second generation added DisplayPort 1.2 support and USB 3.0 support for the rear USB ports.  The way to tell the first and second generation apart is that the rear USB ports are black on the first generation (USB 2.0) and blue on the second generation (USB 3.0).  The ports on the left of the dock are always black since they're always USB 2.0.
    • Normally, the only way to run dual 4K 60 Hz from the E-Port Plus is if both of them use native DisplayPort.  If you use typical DP to HDMI adapters/cables, you'll be relying on the source system's support for Dual Mode DisplayPort, aka DP++.  That allows the system to fall back to HDMI/DVI signaling, but in that mode it only supports up to 1920x1200.  If your second display doesn't have a native DisplayPort input, then the only way around that would be an active DisplayPort to HDMI 2.0 adapter, like this one.  In that case, the system can keep using native DisplayPort signaling, which allows it to support 4K 60 Hz output, because the conversion is occurring within that adapter, which contains signal converter chips for that purpose.
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    Posted January 14th, 2021 14:00

    Hello, I think I have the second generation K09A002.
    My 2-off USB ports are blue with the USB3 symbol which is great as i didnt know I had ports around there

    Thank you for your great post.
    Best regards
    Warren.

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    Posted January 15th, 2021 06:00

    Hello, well im expereancing issues.

    The monitor have turned up. ive come out of the back of the dock to both monitors (display ports) and nothing happens.

    when I disconnect the monitor plugged into the right port (while looking at the doc from the back the left hand monitor works. when I plug anything into the right hand port they both go off. when I plug anything  into the right hand port i dont get a signal. Could it be a faulty docking station right hand port?

     

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    WArren.

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    Posted January 15th, 2021 07:00

    @warrenTDO  A dock problem is a possibility, as is a docking connector problem within your system, I guess.  Here is Dell's own KB article confirming that dual 4K 60 Hz is possible.  It does note that you need discrete NVIDIA/AMD graphics to achieve dual 4K 60 Hz rather than single 4K 60 Hz, but if memory serves, I don't think it was possible to order the Precision 7510 without discrete graphics.

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    Posted January 15th, 2021 07:00

    Hello, thank you for the help. it has a m2000m card.

    i think me messing has made it worse.

    i now have display settings showing on the other monitor that is not plugged in! (showing in preview when ALT-TAB).

     

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    Posted January 15th, 2021 08:00

    uninstalled the drivers and now i can get back to the laptop screen and single external monitor working.

    i dont have the usb-c option on my laptop only hdmi and mini display port.

    i think it may be docking station time. can anyone recommend a cheep one to get my 2-off 4k working.

    Tempted to get another E-Port II plus but not if its 7 years old like mine

    Warren.

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    Posted January 15th, 2021 08:00

    @warrenTDO  Then it sounds like the system is seeing that display.  Is that other display on the correct input?

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    Posted January 15th, 2021 09:00

    Hello, it is seeing the monitor because I can plug the lead in and it appears as monitor 3 in 'Display' setting, then my laptop screen goes off i dont think its the monitor as then when I swap the cables the left monitor comes on.

    it seems is anything thats plugged into that display port!

    what is strange is that in display setting when I select detect with only one monitor plugged in I get a little screen with the word 'display not detected'.

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    Posted January 15th, 2021 13:00

    @warrenTDO  If your system doesn't have Thunderbolt 3, then the only docking stations you can use are Dell's E-Port docks, and the only one that will run dual 4K 60 Hz is the second-gen E-Port II Plus.  Even if you did have TB3, none of those docks would be able to charge that system adequately, so you'd have to keep the power adapter attached.  The reason is that the USB PD spec only supports up to 100W charging.  Dell stretched that out to 130W with some of their docks and systems, but even that isn't enough for your system.  Dell fixed this starting with the Precision 7x20 generation by adding two USB-C/TB3 connectors on the systems and then designing docks (the TB18DC and WD19DC) that plug into both of those connectors in order to push enough total power across those two ports to run a Precision 7000 Series system.  But the 7x10 systems don't have that.

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    Posted January 16th, 2021 05:00

    Hello Jphughan, can i say thank you again for the information.

    Just for kicks i can get the second monitor running by coming out of the laptop HDMI and using the doc for the other monitor. Yup, i only get 30Hz. If i move the 4K from the doc to the other doc port i lose the signal. This must mean that port 1 (or 2 depending what documentation you read) is faulty. i think its time to look for a replacement Dell's E-Port docks (blue USB) Model K09A002. Although its working i think 60Hz will be better.

    Again, I cannot thank you enough for your guidance and info.

    Warren.