UNSOLVED

VP5513

updated

24 years ago

V

VP5513

3 Posts

0

10331

November 4th, 2002 01:00

All Users/Documents - Access Denied? Please Help!

Hello,

I am running Windows XP Pro SP1 on an Inspiron 8200 and I seem to have lost access to my all users/documents folder. Let me give you the whole story. The default account on the computer - i.e. the one I created when I first set it up - allowed me to connect to my network workgroup for my at home network. When I took the computer to college however, I changed the workgroup (via the Computer Name tab in the My Computer properties) to the college domain in order to have network privileges at school. However, when I changed the domain, I did not create a new user account with my college domain's username and password - I simply changed the domain, restarted, and logged in as myself. One thing I changed however was the target for the My Documents folder - instead of saving my files to C:\Documents and Settings\collegeid, I wanted to save my files to C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents, so that I would have access to the documents from both accounts. I could access these files just fine.

Now, recently, I went back home with my computer. At home, we had switched over to a wireless network, and once I returned home, I sat down to set up my computer to access the new wireless network (but with the same workgroup name as the first wired home network). That worked all well and good. However, in fiddling with the network settings, I at one point logged off as my college id account name, and logged in as my old default user account. As soon as I did this, I could no longer access the All Users/Documents folder. It gave me an error that this folder is inaccessible and access is denied. I thought the problem would correct itself when I got back to school and logged in as my college id user name. However, now I am back, and this strategy has worked to no avail. The All Users/Documents folder remains inaccessible. More troublesome is that I can access everything else in the All Users folder - the Favorites, the templates, etc. Even more worrying is that the All Users/Documents folder was nearly 8 GB in size, and now that I have lost access to it, it is eating up a sizeable chunk of my hard drive without even letting me access it for deletion. The folder contained all my music, movies, and all my documents, and although 99.9% was backup for material I had a hard copy of, this shouldn't be something that isn't recoverable. I am convinced that I goofed up som security or sharing privileges for this particular folder, but I have no idea how to fix it. One important note: Contrary to what some people have suggested to me, I have not deleted the folder - I knew the remaining disk space on my harddrive before and after I lost access to the folder, and it has not changed, meaning the folder still exists.

Here is what I have tried. Both my original default account, and my college id 'account' are administrator-level - still no access. I logged in as the 'Administrator' to no avail. I tried System Restore to see if I could regain access from an earlier system state - no dice. Now I am seriously contemplating a full format reinstall of Windows to regain my hard disk space. However, there must be an easier way. If anyone has any idea what I could or should do next, your help would be greatly appreciated. Any suggestions are welcomed. Thank you VERY much in advance!

 

 

  • VP5513

    3 Posts

    258

    0

    Posted November 4th, 2002 02:00

    Just another quick somewhat related question since I brought up hard drive space. My hard drive capacity is 37.2 GB. According to the properties of my C drive, I have used up 21.8. However, when I selected all the folders in the c drive and view their combined properties, the total sum is a mere 7.2 GB. Even if I add my 'missing' 8 GB, that still leaves nearly 6 GB unaccounted for. Is this the swap file, system restore, etc. files that are not 'viewable'? Or am I in serious need of a format reinstall? Also, how hard is a format reinstall of windows xp pro? Thank you very much for your help, again.
  • Denny Denham

    2 Intern

    •

    18798 Posts

    258

    0

    Posted November 4th, 2002 03:00

    VP5513,

    By default, Restore will set aside 12% of your hard disk for restore points. That would be nearly 4.5GB on your system. Have you run disk cleanup lately, that may account for some additional missing space.

    I can't offer any suggestions for your All Users/Documents problem, but in response to your last question, Windows XP is by far the easiest version of Windows to format and reinstall. Excellent instructions can be found here.
  • Dietmar

    224 Posts

    258

    0

    Posted November 4th, 2002 17:00

    You should be able to access your folder by logging in as the Administrator. Since you were using a domain when at college, I assume you are using XP Pro. In that case, at the login prompt type ctrl-alt-del twice, which will give you the standard login prompt, from which you can log in as the Administrator (depending on how you set up your computer, you may or may not have to type a password there). Once you are logged in, you may first have to take ownership of the folder: If you still cannot get access to the files in that folder, then right-click on the folder in question, click on Properties, go to the Security tab, and click on the Advanced button; when there, click on the Owner tab and change the owner to Administrator. At this point you should be able to do whatever you want with those files (like changing permissions to give access to the user you want to access these files as).
  • VP5513

    3 Posts

    258

    0

    Posted November 4th, 2002 19:00

    Thank you Dietmar!! You have saved me from losing all my data (and my sanity)! Changed the permissions as you said and now I have full access again. What a relief! Who would have thought something so simple could have caused this much trouble? Would anyone by any chance know how the permissions might get changed in the first place? (I assure you, I did not do it manually). Anyway, I cannot express my appreciation enough. Thanks again.

  • Dietmar

    224 Posts

    258

    0

    Posted November 4th, 2002 20:00

    It's somewhat hard to tell, but it is clearly related to you switching your computer from a stand-alone user configuration to a domain-based system. When you do that, the user-id that you log in with in your domain represents, in principle, a new user, that is not directly related to your previous, local user-id. Those are the fundamentals, anyway; how it got so that you could not access your files as any of these users I cannot really fathom. I guess some of the deepest questions are best left alone
  • Cochano

    1 Message

    258

    0

    Posted December 3rd, 2002 14:00

    Hi! I sorta have the same problem except that my motherboard died and I had to replace it and I lost access to all my documents. Anyway I was able to gain control of it, but I have trouble switching the permissions and privileges to access the files at least now I am able to see it, how can I actually start to read them again? Please help! Thanks
  • Sjhemp

    2 Posts

    258

    0

    Posted January 25th, 2005 01:00

    I have the same problem, except that I get no security tab, although I'm an Administrator, and even made another Administrator login. Any other ideas?
  • Sjhemp

    2 Posts

    258

    0

    Posted January 25th, 2005 01:00

    I probably should have mentioned I have an Inspiron 5100.