Last night, I installed the latest recommended version (1.14.0, A06) of Desktop System Software for my DXP051 (XPS/Dimension 400/9051) system.
I have two questions:
1) How can I verify that the correct version is now properly installed on my system?
2) Can someone explain to me how to interpret the installation instructions given from the Drivers and Downloads page? The instructions given are:
Install
1.Double-click the new icon on the desktop labeled R121089.EXE. 2.The Self-Extracting window appears and prompts you to extract or unzip to C:\DELL\DRIVERS\R121089. Write down this path so the executable (I.e. Setup.exe) file can be found later. 3.The Self-Extractor window appears. 4.Click OK. 5.After completing the file extraction, if the Self-Extractor window is still open, close it. 6.Click the Start button and then click Run. 7.Type C:\DELL\DRIVERS\R121089 in the Open textbox and then click OK. 8.Follow the on-screen installation instructions.
and, yet, on my system, when I click on the R121089.EXE icon, the system goes through the extraction and directly into the install process. This seeming contradiction with the published instructions causes me to be uneasy as to whether or not everything has installed properly - especially since I do not know how to verify the version of DSS installed on my system.
What OS/version are you using - i.e. Vista Home Premium 32bit?
1) How can I verify that the correct version is now properly installed on my system?
I've never installed the System Software myself, but is it an executable program - i.e. can you open it, in the same way you'd open any other program?
If it can be opened (Start/All Programs, or Control Panel?), you should be able to confirm the version, as you would do for any other program - i.e. via Help/About?
I'll have to rely on someone else advising you, if it can't be opened?
Re the extraction/installation: I personally prefer to extract all files myself, rather than just double-clicking the downloaded file(s).
I do so, primarily because it allows me to extract the files to where I want them extracted to :emotion-55:
Depending on what OS you use, it *may* require you to have a program installed, which can handle compressed files - i.e. .zip, .RAR or whatever?
But that's no big deal, because you can use one or other of the FREE file archiver programs available for the job.
7-Zip is one of - if not the best... and it's available in 32bit +/or 64bit versions :emotion-5:
If you look in the folder where the Desktop System Software files were extracted (R121089), there is a "dss features matrix" .xls file that includes the patches installed by the software. Most are hotfixes for features on a particular set of systems that aren't already included in the original OS/Service Pack from Microsoft. If the matrix says No, then that patch isn't necessary - either the OS already supports it, or it's not applicable to a given set of systems (Dimension, Optiplex, or Precision).
I went ahead and downloaded and extracted that file (using an unzip utility), and checked the Excel (.xls) chart. With XP SP2 on your Dimension/XPS system there are 3 patches:
- Microsoft Hoftix KB908763, which fixes a possible USB hub issue when tranferring large files using USB. If you do a search on your PC (including hidden files), KB908763 should listed somewhere if it installed correctly. In any case, if any USB drives work fine, you're good.
- Enable UDMA support for optical drives - if your CD/DVD drive in device manager has UDMA support, you're good.
- 1k "crash analysis marker" to alert Dell as well as Microsoft if you report an error - yeah, OK, whatever. Dell's not going to fall all over itself fixing a crash on a system out of warranty/out of production.
As for the installation instructions - most newer Dell downloads will launch the install automatically. I suspect Dell leaves the older manual installation instructions in there just to be on the safe side. Don't overanalyze it.
In other words - take a deep breath, and relax. If your PC works, it works. Don't start tearing your hair out until something DOESN'T work.
I looked at the spreadsheet. My particular operating system was not listed (Windows XP/Media Center Edition/Version 2002/SP3). I searched my system as you suggested and did not find KB908673 anywhere. You specified KB908763 but I assume you made a keying mistake.
Also, I could not find anything in Device Manager anywhere that indicated I had UDMA support - enabled or disabled. Would this show up in Properties for the CD/DVD drives? If so, I did not see any mention of it.
Thanks for your reassurance on the installation procedure. I sure thought everything was right but the documentation seems so far removed from the current practice that it made me question what was going on.
So, finally, I am back where I started, i.e. I cannot produce anything that indicates to me that the Desktop System Software update was really installed. Is it because I am running Windows XP/Media Center Edition/Version 2002/SP3 and there is nothing showing in the matrix to be installed for it? In other words, is no evidence exactly what I should expect?
One piece of additional information; my CD/DVD drives are listed under an Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF in Device Management.
Further reading on my part unearthed a reference that states:
In common parlance, drives that use Ultra DMA are often called "Ultra ATA/xx" where "xx" is the speed of the interface. So, few people really talk about current drives being "Ultra DMA mode 5", they say they are "Ultra ATA/100".
That being the case, I guess I do have evidence that UDMA is enabled.
Like I said - relax. I'm just a user like you - and the more I learn, the less I know. It's annoying, but true.
I figure that if it works, it works. While technically a PC is just a machine, you could spend years trying to figure out what tens of thousands of smart people have put into all this stuff and never, ever catch up. Not in a million years. The technological pace is too fast and too complicated - at some point you have to just trust that it'll work the way it's supposed to - until it doesn't.
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What OS/version are you using - i.e. Vista Home Premium 32bit?
I've never installed the System Software myself, but is it an executable program - i.e. can you open it, in the same way you'd open any other program?
If it can be opened (Start/All Programs, or Control Panel?), you should be able to confirm the version, as you would do for any other program - i.e. via Help/About?
I'll have to rely on someone else advising you, if it can't be opened?
Re the extraction/installation: I personally prefer to extract all files myself, rather than just double-clicking the downloaded file(s).
I do so, primarily because it allows me to extract the files to where I want them extracted to :emotion-55:
Depending on what OS you use, it *may* require you to have a program installed, which can handle compressed files - i.e. .zip, .RAR or whatever?
But that's no big deal, because you can use one or other of the FREE file archiver programs available for the job.
7-Zip is one of - if not the best... and it's available in 32bit +/or 64bit versions :emotion-5: