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July 26th, 2004 11:00

Windows 98 Starup problem

Hi:

I have a Dell Dimension from about 2000 with Windows 98 SE, which was reinstalled about one year ago and has worked fine until this past weekend. 

The machine had trouble starting up and I was told to restart in safe mode.  It then couldn't recognize Microsoft Office so I reinstalled Word, Excel, Powerpoint and tried to do the same with Outlook but the machine got hung-up.  So I restarted it and go an error message saying it had to do scan disk which it started to do and found six or seven "bad sectors" before crashing again.  Now it won't startup even with the Windows 98 startup disk (it just tries reading the disk and nothing happens).  I was able to start up the computer with a Windows 95 startup disk I have from an old computer but I can't get it to do anything beyond show me an A> (won't switch to the "c" drive which is my hard disk).

Most importantly, I know my files are still on the hard drive and, of course, I haven't backed them all up so I want to make sure that I can get them off even if I have to somehow reformat the hard drive and start all over again.

Any suggestions?

Perhaps I have a bad Windows 98 startup disk. Is there any way to create a new one from another computer?

Is there anyway to reinstall Windows 98 without deleting the files on the hard-drive?

Thanks in advance.

Rob

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    Posted July 26th, 2004 14:00

    NYCRob,

    Unfortunately the files you are using to attempt to access your C:\ drive are the same on Windows 95 and Windows 98 startup disks. Based on the results of your scandisk which ended with a crash, it sounds as though your hard disk has experienced a catastrophic failure, particularly since you cannot access it from a DOS prompt. If that is the case, the only way to salvage your data would be to take the disk to a commercial data recovery service.

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    Posted July 26th, 2004 14:00

    Thanks.

    Is there any reason why it booted up a couple of times and let me see files on the hard drive (before I did the scan disk)?  Or why my Windows 98 startup disk doesn't work? 

    I'd like to get it to boot up once again and then download some files at which point I'd be willing to reformat the hard drive and start again.

    Rob

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    Posted July 26th, 2004 15:00

    NYCRob,

    The Windows 98 startup disk may be corrupted, as floppy disks have a limited life span. You can download a fresh one from here but I suspect it will produce the same results as the Win95 diskette.

    See if you are able to run the Dell diagnostics on the hard drive to see what results they produce.

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    Posted July 30th, 2004 01:00

    Hi:

    I don't know how to run dell diagnostics until I get the machine booted up in Windows and I'm having a problem doing so.

    The machine boots up with the Windows 95 disk and gets an "a" prompt but doesn't recognize the hard drive.  I have two other disks to boot up the machine: 1) Window 98 startup disk and 2) the boot disk I downloaded from the site you suggested.

    I tried both these alternatives with different but unsuccessful results.  The Windows 98 disk never booted up (i.e., I didn't get the "a" prompt).  The one I downloaded gave an error message: "Remove disk or other media. Press any key to restart."  I pressed a key and got the same error message repeatedly.   Then, when I tried pressing the key after removing the disk from the drive, I went back to having the machine start and begin loading Windows 98 and then stopping when it says "Windows 98" on the screen.  But I know both of these two disks work in the drive because when I start the machine using the Windows 95 disk, I can see the files on both these disks by typing "dir."

    Any explanation or suggestions for how to proceed? 

    Is there any way to reinstall Windows without destroying my files on the hard drive?

    Any guidance would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Rob

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    Posted July 30th, 2004 01:00

    NYCRob,

    You might see if you can get the system to boot with an older saved copy of the registry. See this. If that does not work, you can try a "dirty install" of Windows 98 over itself, as described here.

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    Posted July 30th, 2004 02:00

    If I have to try the "dirty reinstall" does that mean the entire hard drive will be erased and I'll lose the files I have on there, which at this point is the only thing I want to save from the computer?

    Rob

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    Posted July 30th, 2004 03:00

    I had some success.  I managed to get the computer started using safe mode to get a "a" prompt.  From the "a" prompt I can switch to "c" (the hard drive) and see my files.

    I have a zip drive on the machnie and would like to copy some important files to a zip disk.  But I

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    Posted July 30th, 2004 03:00

    I had some success.  I managed to get the computer started using safe mode to get a "a" prompt.  From the "a" prompt I can switch to "c" (the hard drive) and see my files.

    I have a zip drive on the machnie and would like to copy some important files to a zip disk.  But

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    Posted July 30th, 2004 03:00

    Hi:

    I had some success.  I managed to get the computer started using safe mode to get a "a" prompt.  From the "a" prompt I can switch to "c" (the hard drive) and see my files.

    I have a zip drive on the machnie and would like to copy some important files to a zip disk.  But I can't see the zip drive as drive "d" or "e."  Do you have any suggestions for how to gain access to it.  Now that I have the machine turned on and can see my files, I'm not eager to shut the machine off until I've copied several critical ones that are too big for a disk drive.

    Thanks.
    Rob

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    Posted July 30th, 2004 05:00

    NYCRob,

    It's Catch 22. You are able to start in Safe Mode, but Safe Mode loads only a bar minimum of drivers (not including the driver for your Zip disk).

    The good news is that you can see the files which means that the hard drive hasn't died. If you have a friend with a free drive bay in a computer, you can install your drive into that computer (or your second computer, since you are obviously using something other than the one experiencing difficulty) and copy the files to removable media there, then do a complete format/reinstall of the troubled machine.