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November 13th, 2010 11:00

2 minute delay on opening .pit file (from DMZ / SSL gateway)

From the beginning we have this strange issue:

Customers with Internet Explorer report that the vworkspace web interface is extreme slow.

When they login and click on their virtual desktop, it starts loading something, but nothing is happening.

Normally you would see a popup screen telling the user that the desktop is starting up or something.

It almost looks like Internet Explorer is waiting to get data and then after 2 minutes it finally starts doing something.

We have not seen this behavor with Firefox. It only happens with IE and mainly in combination with Vista/Windows 7.

We had a support ticket open for months but the support guys couldn't reproduce it or didn't know what to do.

However people keep complaining "This VDI is very slow" ... they mean the startup.

I have included a video so you can see exactly what I mean. If nobody in this community knows what this is, then whats next??

vworkspace video capture

Message was edited by: René Kemp Changed topic title

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December 24th, 2010 11:00

Hi Michel,

These are the things we tried in the first place with quest support (without luck).

We did some more testing, and it appears to also happen without Quest SSL. We configured the web interface to accept connections on port 80, bypassing Quest SSL, and the timeout randomly happens.

So it seems to be not related to SSL. However, it only happens on connections from 'the outside'. Internal users don't have this problem.

I guess this will be an unsolved mistery..

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December 24th, 2010 11:00

Thank you for your time, but that's not the problem. The web interface itself loads quickly. You don't need to ping the site or whatever, just follow Rick Mack's suggestion in the second post about '.

It sometimes goes wrong at the moment you click on the virtual desktop.

Take a look at this capture:  http://www.chelloo.com/images/temp/vworkspace.avi

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January 3rd, 2011 11:00

Are you using a self signed certificate?

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January 3rd, 2011 18:00

René,

   From your video,  I noticed that the pit file is being scanned by IE's SmartScreen Filter - http://www.microsoft.com/security/filters/smartscreen.aspx

Just for troubleshooting, try turning it off and/or configure werkplek.schiphol.nl as a trusted stie and see if that makes a difference...

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January 4th, 2011 11:00

Quick question. I'm just trying to do elimination here and wonder if it's possible to do this:

You have 1 Secure-IT machine, 1 Web-IT machine and rest of the network

1) Try to deploy another machine, even virtual, install Web-IT role on it, quickly configure it similar to your original Web-IT and change Secure-IT web proxy to that machine (don't forget to restart pnsslsvc service on Secure-IT) machine. Will it be similarly slow? I'd even suggest to try 2003/IIS6 combination to host Web-IT.

2) Try to deploy another machine with Secure-IT service on it. Configure it with your SSL cert, point to original Web-IT server. Will it be slow as well?

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January 11th, 2011 07:00

It's an official certificate.

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January 11th, 2011 07:00

I almost thought this must be it! But too bad

I disabled smartscreen filter and made sure the site was added to the trusted site (already was). Did a complete restart, but it was still loading for 2 minutes.

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January 15th, 2011 09:00

Thanks all for your good suggestions. We still haven't solved this.

Because this topic is getting very big, here is a list of our conclusions:

  • The timeout only occures with Internet Explorer (all versions / any OS). Never with Firefox!
  • It happens randomly. If you try to click on the Virtual Machine 10 times in a row, it times-out about 5 or 6 times.
  • It only happens when connecting from the internet (external users). So when we connect from our internal network to the external webserver, there are no problems. Our network guys say the exact same route is being used, and you pass the same firewalls.
  • It has nothing to do with certificates or SSL gateway. I tried it directly on port 80, bypassing the SSL gateway, with same results.
  • SSL/Webserver are installed on same server in DMZ. In DMZ we do not have an active directory.
  • The brokers are on are internal network, in active directory.
  • I also tried to proxy the SSL gateway (in DMZ) to an internal webserver, still the same time-out problem!
  • All servers are Windows 2008 x64 / IIS7
  • In the eventlog, we get a 'The request is aborted' message (see http://communities.quest.com/message/3068#3068)
  • For a video of the problem see : http://www.chelloo.com/images/temp/vworkspace.avi

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February 4th, 2011 14:00

After a lot of testing and debugging on this issue we have come to the following conclusion and are working on a solution.

1. It definately has to do with 2008 R1/R2 servers (IIS 7.x specifically).

2. It definately has to do with Certificates as we can not reproduce the issue over straight HTTP no matter how we try.

3. It all depends where the Certificate is installed.  Secure Gateway server, Web Access/Secure Gateway combo or Web Access over SSL.

    i. It all depends on 'where' the certificate is installed.  If using Secure Gateway on 2008 R1/R2 this is the issue.

4. It does only happen with IE (any version) and not with FireFox or other browsers.

5. If using Windows Server 2003, there are no issues at all.

A temp work-around right now is to use the Secure Gateway server on Windows Server 2003, can be x86 or x64, this does not matter.

We are still debugging and hope to have a proper solution for 2008 R1/R2 using IIS 7.x very soon.

-Stephen Yorke

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February 4th, 2011 14:00

That is great news Stephen!

Rene, please let us know if this also solves your problem.

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February 15th, 2011 09:00

I tried it on Windows 2003. On W2K3 we do not have the .pit timeout, but then we got other problems.

On w2k3 strange things happen with the web-interface like pictures not loading.

So this is not the way we want to go, installing a 7 year old OS. If it would solve all problems then it would be fine, but it introduces new problems.

ps: Stephen says in his situation it is related to the SSL gateway, but in our situation it goes wrong with or without SSL enabled. Even on port 80, we get this timeout.

Only in DMZ...

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July 2nd, 2011 10:00

We are very happy with this solution. It was really an annoying problem and very hard to replicate in another environment.

That's what made this one hard to solve, it only happend on our network.

Anyway, by adjusting one small setting in IIS the problem completely disappeard. That's just amazing!

I want to thank everybody who was involved by solving this problem, thanks for your patience. That includes myself (did you try turning it off and on again ).

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July 4th, 2011 05:00

That is an awesome find Yorker! Thanks for providing this!

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