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Upgrading Inspiron 560 to Core 2 Quad 3.0 GHz - Do I need a new BIOS?
Hello
I'm in the process of doing several upgrades, including going from a Core 2 Duo 3.0 GHz to a Core 2 Quad 3.0 GHz. I've already confirmed that the CPU is compatible with the MB / chipset. The CPU should arrive today (July 3rd).
I've upgraded to the latest BIOS on the Dell site for the Inspiron 560. However, will a different BIOS be needed for the Quad Core? If so, where do I find it?
Also, the BIOS I have gives precious little information about the hardware. For example, no details about CAS latency. Is there a completely different BIOS available?
Thank you
speedstep
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July 5th, 2017 09:00
Power Supply and Heatsink as well as version of the board all count.
ECS G43T-DM1 Intel G43 Socket 775
The ECS G43T-DM1 is based on the Intel G43 / ICH10 chipset and supports socket 775 Intel Core 2 Quad, Intel Core 2 Duo, Intel Pentium dual-core, Intel Celeron dual-core and Intel Celeron processor 4xx-series processors with 800/1066/1333 MHz front side bus. Add up to 8 GB of dual channel DDR3 memory via four DIMM sockets. Other features include an Atheros AR8121-L1E Gigabit Ethernet LAN, Realtek ALC888S 8-channel HD audio, and integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500 with VGA or HDMI output.
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September 27th, 2017 08:00
QX9650 is 45nm and the Core 2 Extreme Edition and is a 130W cpu. This part works fine in Precision T3400 with 525W power supply. Using in a 560 will likely damage the motherboard VRM and 305W power supply. Other models that use parts like this have much larger power supply.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00AA1CX9U/
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July 3rd, 2017 06:00
There is no "different BIOS" available - if you have the latest for that model, that's all there is.
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July 3rd, 2017 07:00
There are motherboard part numbers and revisions such as Dell 0K83V0 A00
Sockets Supported: LGA775
• DC power supply
• Wattage: 305W
Many models in the 5XX series require the 350W power supply and Copper Performance heatsink in addition to specific motherboard support for Quad Core.
C955N Heatsink & Fan Assembly 95W ??
C957N Heatsink & Fan Assembly
Anything other than the processor that came with the unit is NOT SUPPORTED or guaranteed.
Intel G43 Chipset full details:
http://ark.intel.com/products/36524/
BIOS A06 and the Q9650 may work but not without modifications to bios and power supply and heatsink.
http://ark.intel.com/products/36524#@compatibility
HU587 Conroe Kit, E4300, 1.80G, 2MB, 800FSB, L2
DX483 Conroe Kit, E4400, 2.00G, 2MB, 800FSB, L2
DX485 Conroe Kit, E6320, 1.86G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
DX484 Conroe Kit, E6420, 2.13G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
MP160 Conroe Kit, E6550, 2.33G, 4MB, 1333FSB
MP162 Conroe Kit, E6750, 2.66G, 4MB, 1333FSB, G0
MP628 Conroe Kit, E6850, 3.00G, 4MB, 1333FSB, G0
WM543 Conroe XE Kit, X6800, 2.93G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
MP626 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, Q6600, 2.40G, 8MB, 1066FSB, G0
MP627 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, Q6700, 2.66G, 8MB, 1066FSB, G0
UP673 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, QX6700, 2.66G, 8MB, 1066FSB, B3
RX656 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, QX6800, 2.93G, 8MB, 1066FSB, G0
PW016 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, QX6850, 3.00G, 8MB, 1333FSB, G0
C863D Yorkfield Quad Core Kit, QX9300, 2.5G, 6MB, 1333FSB, M1
C864D Yorkfield Quad Core Kit, Q9450, 2.66G, 12MB, 1333FSB, C1
C865D Yorkfield Quad Core Kit, Q9550, 2.83G, 12MB, 1333FSB, C1
C299C Yorkfield Quad Core Kit, QX9650, 3.0G, 12MB, 1333FSB, C0
H786G Yorkfield Quad Core kit, QX9650, 3.0G, 12MB, 1333FSB, C1
Power supplies
375w KH624 LiteOn
375w PH344 Delta
425w TP728 LiteOn (the new one is C921D)
The new 425w power supply (C921D)
Parts Returned = TP728 425w power supply
Parts Ordered = C921D 425w power supply
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July 5th, 2017 01:00
I'm certain that the motherboard is:
Manufacturer Dell Inc.
Model 018D1Y
I'm not certain as to the accuracy of the ark links, since at least two PCI Express stats are definitely wrong.
I'm sorry, but you totally lost me there. Saying it may not work is definite. I'm not sure where you got that it will not work.
Agreed, it may need more power and better cooling.
As for modifying the BIOS, I have no issues with that, but I do not see where the CPU data can be modified, it appears to be read only. Hopefully you can offer some insight.
Thank you for the detailed reply.
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July 5th, 2017 07:00
No, there are not "different" BIOS for each CPU. The latest BIOS A06 applies to all CPU. No, you cannot "modify" our BIOS. 18D1Y was the latest revision motherboard.
Inspiron 560 motherboards =
K83V0 for Inspiron 560/560S. Elitegroup Computer System Company 89D386-R30011
18D1Y for Inspiron 560/560S. Elitegroup Computer System Company 81D685-R30013
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July 6th, 2017 23:00
Answering my own question.
Incorrect. The BIOS A06 and Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 are working fine, spectacularly actually, even with all 4 cores stressed to 100%, with no modifications to the BIOS, no modifications to the power supply, and no modifications to the stock heat sink.
This 7 year old PC now has 8 GB of RAM, a 3.0 GHz Quad Core CPU, external SATA III, external USB 3.0, an SSD, and two HDDs.
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September 27th, 2017 03:00
Does anyone know if the Inspiron 560 will work with a QX9650? The specs are the same as the Q9650 but the multiplier in unlocked and the TDP is 130w instead of 95w. Otherwise they are identical as far as I can see from Ark.
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October 3rd, 2017 06:00
Hi, thanks for your reply. I have tried the QX9650 and it does work with a couple of caveats. First, the machine sometimes doesn't post and just starts the fans at full speed. After a hard restart, it posts but with an error message saying that either the core to bus ratio or vid has failed. Pressing F1 to continue will allow it to boot to Windows and it runs fine from there. However, it is running rather hot; high 50s at idle. I have ordered a Q9650 which has the lower TDP to see if it resolves these issues, in which case I will resell the QX9650. I would rather have the stability and better cooling than the ability to overlock with ThrottleStop that I had been hoping for.