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November 27th, 2014 09:00

My Experience with the New Alienware Area 51 R2 (Late 2014): Compatibilities, Damages, and Other Issues

// Last update on October 5, 2015 | The unit is still in process for a resolution

 

// Last update on January 9, 2015 | The replacement units are damaged again (Pictures on page 6):  

http://en.community.dell.com/owners-club/alienware/f/3746/t/19608440?pi21932=6

 

// Last update on November 29, 2014 | Section on the drives and RAID

 

On November 4, 2014 I ordered my New Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014) with:

Intel Core i7-5960X (8 cores)

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit English

32GB Quad Channel DDR4 at 2133MHz

128GB SSD SATA 6Gb/s Main + 2TB HDD 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s Storage

Dual NVidia GeForce GTX Titan Z with 24GB Total (2x 12GB)

4 Year Alienware Enhanced Support

Total Price: $7,482.56 CAD

Estimated Delivery Date was for December 4, 2014.

 

On Tuesday November 25, 2014, I received my delivery with Purolator. As you can see in the two pictures below, I was happy until I saw the box was damaged.

The New Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014) box had only 2 of 4 clips that hold the top-box to the base-box. Purolator delivered my Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014) box upside down.

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Here is a sample of my conversation with the delivery guy:

Me: It would be nice to see the people to handle it with gently with care.

The Purolator Delivery Guy: Why would I? It’s just a big heavy box?!!

Me: Because you’re holding a super expensive computer the box is damaged. Do you still have the two missing clips that hold the box in place?

The Purolator Delivery Guy: No I don’t have them. I received your box like that when I loaded my truck this morning.

Me: Alright... I’m hoping everything is fine when I’ll open the box. Would it be possible to help me bring this big box upstairs? It’s a bit difficult to handle alone.

The Purolator Delivery Guy: Sure, I can.

Once we got on my apartment floor, I signed on the terminal for the reception of my delivery. Before he left, I told him: I’m worried my computer is damaged.

The Purolator Delivery Guy: It’s normal! The damages happen all the time for a delivery and if something happens to your computer please contact Dell. Plus there are no symbols, signs or icons to show that’s fragile or which side is up. How am I supposed to handle the box if there’s no indication. Normally this kind of box should not be delivered by one guy, but two. Also, the bottom was hanging out so I had to handle it upside down. The clips were not strong enough to hold the bottom part of the box. They should add more tape around it.

Me: Well, I guess they didn’t think that it was necessary.

  

I noticed Dell changed their packaging this year. They cheaped out a bit with the New Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014) box compared to the old Alienware Aurora R4 (2013) box. Here’s a video showing the unboxing of the Alienware Aurora R4 (2013) for comparison:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3irfNNI4U5Q

In order to show how the quality of the box has changed, I compared the previous year to this year.

From this YouTube video, you can definitely see the old Alienware Aurora R4 (2013) was really well packaged.

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You’ll notice there’s a symbol with an arrow on the box below the kid’s left hand showing the right side up. Also, at the same level on the box, there are other instruction symbols which are not on the New Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014) packaging.

As you can see in the two pictures below, the big box contains two other boxes, each with padding on the corners.

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One of those two boxes is accessories box, with foam compartments for the manuals instructions, discs, mouse, keyboard, power cord, mouse pad etc.

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The second box is the computer box that has 4 clips at the bottom.

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You have to remove the clips before pulling the upper part of the box.

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Inside that box you will find 4 foam corners padding the computer casing and with the computer case protected by a cover sheet, preventing scratches and rubbing the computer case against the foam.

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As you can see, the Alienware Aurora R4 (2013) was really well packaged for transportation.

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For the New Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014) Dell has omitted the necessary layers of protection and to secure the unit in place so it won’t have any accidents.

I detached the two remaining clips in order to pull up the upper part box to reveal the contents inside the box.

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As you can see the presentation of the Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014) box is unpleasant to see and is not grandiose like the previous one I showed above. At the top you‘ll notice the accessories box, however it is not padded like the prior model.

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On the top front and back of the computer there are two cardboard triangles, meant to stabilize the computer. However the triangles were squished and essentially useless.

Then the computer casing has a foam hat to cover the top of the computer. But the computer casing was not place correctly in the foam place holder base.

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The computer was actually standing on one side corner of the hexagon shape. The state of the two triangles cardboard that’s squished show that they were not strong enough to hold the computer casing in place when the delivery guy flipped the New Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014) box upside down during the transport. Another important mistake Dell made in the packaging that wasn't present in the previous year, is not having the computer casing covered with a cover sheet or a thin plastic film to prevent rubbing of the foam against the computer casing during transportation.

Due to the lack of protection on the casing, the casing was damaged. Below are pictures of the damage on the computer casing.

Scratches on the right door.

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Scratches on the left door.

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Scratches on the left door and dents on the black plastic frame and dust.

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Other dents on the black plastic frame.

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There’s a bend on the left metal frame edge where the left bottom door sits on before the door can be snapped on the casing.

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On the picture below, the left door has a gap because the left metal frame edge is bent inside the computer casing.

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The gap also prevents the left door LED light from lighting up because the contact doesn’t touch with the Alien FX connector. Also there's no stickers for Express Service Code and the Product Key for the Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit English.

I immediately called Dell.ca to report the issue. For the three hours, I was transferred back and forth between Canada USA where I had to explain my problem to 5-to-6 customer service agents before someone helped me submit a request an exchange.

   

After I finished the call with Dell Customer Service, I decided to look inside the accessories box:

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The box contained manuals instruction, Microsoft Windows 8.1 Recovery Disc, Alienware Disc, Power Cord, mouse and keyboard. The keyboard box was upside down. However there was no mouse pad, no DVI-to-VGA adapter, and no extra modular cable 6 pins to 8 pins to add a third GPU card.

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To be sure I wasn’t missing something, I looked inside the computer casing and effectively there’s is no extra modular preconfigured to add a third GPU card.

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Dell have completely removed the extra modular cables that were in position R3 and R4 of the power supply.

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However the cables should be there because I remember Eddy Goyanes (Alienware Marketing) mentioned the computer will be ship with the extra modular cable at 4:06/5:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xPG3AK9CE0

Joe Olmsted (Alienware Director of Product Planning) also talked about it here at 10:43/13:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-urlcdzvgA

 

  

On a side note, for those who want to know the specification of the standard ATX Power Supply 1500W, see the picture below or http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/DELL,INC_D1500EF-00_1500W_ECOS%203950_Report.pdf .

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Further, the choice for default drives that comes with the unit could be better. The main drive is a Samsung SSD PM851 | MZ7TE128HMGR. The specifications below will give you an idea of the performance you will get.

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http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/product/flash-ssd/detail?productId=7992&iaId=831

The storage drive is a Toshiba HDD | DAT01ACA200, which is average and manufactured on OCT-2014. The date is quite recent like you can see on the picture below.

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The HHD specifications and performance are like the other drives in the same category of 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB cache.

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http://storage.toshiba.com/storagesolutions/client/dt01aca-series

I’m curious to know what kind of drives Dell will put in the system when you upgrade for the option of 256GB SSD 6Gb/s Main + 4TB 6kRPM SATA 6Gb/s Storage or 512GB SSD 6Gb/s Main + 4TB 6kRPM SATA 6Gb/s Storage. One thing for sure these upgrade come with a storage drive that run slower at 6kRPM compared to Toshiba HHD 2TB 7200RPM.

 

IMPORTANT NOTE: You will not be able to RAID your SSDs. Dell/Alienware don’t officially support the RAID for SSDs in the bays/SATA ports 4, 5, and 6. They made a really bad decision and design choice for the motherboard firmware.  Most of the hard-core enthusiasm gamers will be very angry and furious when they will try to install their SSDs in RAID 0, 1, 5 & 10.

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In my case, I can’t even RAIDed all my Intel SSDs 730 Series 480GB the way I want.

NB to Dell or Alienware: Please fix your motherboard firmware and please unlock all the SATA ports for the RAID mode and add the support for the NVMe. Your X99 high-end PC desktop should have all those options available.

 

To my surprise, my first initial boot up was already done by someone. It has a username of “ooba1”.

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I don’t know what happen there? Why is there no initial setup when you boot the first time the computer?

Another surprise, the Intel i7-5960X is not factory overclocked at 4.0GHz like they stated on www.alienware.ca.

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It was set at 3.0GHz which is the default speed set by Intel.

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To conclude, I’m a bit disappointed to see my New Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014) with all these damages with the delivery, the lack of good packaging, missing the extra modular cables, the issue with the RAID Mode, the initial booting was already done by another user and the Intel CPU i7-5960X was not factory overclocked at 4.0GHz. It feels like Dell was not ready to release and they were rushing to push this product out quickly.

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There is a snowstorm in Montreal Canada; winter is here. I hope the next delivery will be better, but I doubt they had the time to improve the packaging so that it is more adapted to the weather conditions and for transport like the older model.

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December 9th, 2014 21:00

Hi Hockeytown,

i notice that u upgraded ur RAM to DDR4 2400Mhz., so this board does support 2400Mhz ? or maybe more ? as alienware support told me the max can go is 2133Mhz.

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December 9th, 2014 22:00

 
Zero989

1. There is foam on the top,

 

2. the screenshots in the first post has the Area 51 at the WRONG ANGLE. Whoever packed his PC is an idiot.

 

3. On both my Area 51 R2 boxes, there are the 4 plastic retainer clips. 8 total. 0 missing. Lucky me I guess :s.

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to post this pic.

 

1. Good. But since it doesn't expand the whole width of the box top, do you feel that the card-board corners can support the weight of the tower-top if tipped on it's side or upside-down?

 

2. I think maybe the box fell apart (likely at the bottom) and the shipper tried to re-box with little care to contents. Just went down-hill from there.

 

3. Good. Yes, that is key to keeping the bottom in and machine "boxed-up". I pretty sure that equipment boxed like this is not meant to be carried from the sides (only held under the bottom). They try to make it "all easy" to just lift the top off ... but I think a conventional box (with a real bottom) would be better in this case.

 

1. Not if it's pushed over hard or dropped on a corner.

3. I don't understand their reasoning for having the box made that way to be held with plastic clips that fall out. It weighs 60+ lbs..

Hi Hockeytown,

 

 

i notice that u upgraded ur RAM to DDR4 2400Mhz., so this board does support 2400Mhz ? or maybe more ? as alienware support told me the max can go is 2133Mhz.

 

I'm using 16GB of 2400Mhz right now. Really gave a nice boost to performance.

8 Wizard

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December 9th, 2014 23:00

1. Not if it's pushed over hard or dropped on a corner.

 

3. I don't understand their reasoning for having the box made that way to be held with plastic clips that fall out. It weighs 60+ lbs..

1. I didn't think so. [:(]

3. I don't agree with it either ... but it's so that you don't have to lift it out of the box
or
flip it over upside down, carefully remove the box, and then turn machine right-side-up

... like a 60 lbs box isn't going to get flipped-over, pushed over, and/or dropped on it's corner by normal shippers. There use to be lower package weight restrictions, and I think they resent the new higher ones.

December 11th, 2014 23:00

Intel RST does work on the 51 R2, but only on drives 2, 3, and 4.  The speed, however, is very, very slow.  We have had many Alienware's in the past and are used to motherboards with some SATA ports at 6 GB/s and others at 3 GB/s.

In this case the ports report to Intel RST at 6 GB/s, but the drive only operates at 2 GB/s.

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December 12th, 2014 09:00

Intel RST does work on the 51 R2, but only on drives 2, 3, and 4.

 

Dell/Alienware don’t officially support the RAID for SSDs in the bays/SATA ports 4, 5, and 6. They only support the RAID for HDDs in the bays/SATA ports 1, 2 and 3. This mean you will have to switch your drive position or your SATA cables. As long the drives or cables are plugged in the SATA ports 1, 2 or 3 you'll be able to RAID them for a volume of 2 drives or 3 drives only.

This will also mean you'll never be able to have a volume of RAID 10 that contains 4 drives.

The speed, however, is very, very slow.  We have had many Alienware's in the past and are used to motherboards with some SATA ports at 6 GB/s and others at 3 GB/s.

 

In this case the ports report to Intel RST at 6 GB/s, but the drive only operates at 2 GB/s.

 

I found this new today that  "Intel Haswell-E has SATA RST-driver issue" http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-haswell-e-has-sata-rst-driver-issue.html

If you look in the comments section, someone has talked about your speed issue:

" #4976175 Posted on: 12/12/2014 03:18 PM


After about 3 full months of release the errata on the X99/C610 has already grown to 9 pages, 25 items. My personal favorite is errata 22) SATA signal voltage violation exceeding ATA specification 3.1 for both tx and rx connector for any SATA I or II device with no plan to fix of course. The neat part is a similar erratum is in the 8 and 9 series PCH update but includes only SATA I devices... so they just doubled down and expanded that problem on the X99 to include any SATA 3Gb/s HDD or SSD you might use. A real bonus.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/x99-chipset-pch-spec-update.html  "

8 Wizard

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December 12th, 2014 11:00

Intel RST does work on the 51 R2, but only on drives 2, 3, and 4.  The speed, however, is very, very slow.  We have had many Alienware's in the past and are used to motherboards with some SATA ports at 6 GB/s and others at 3 GB/s.

 

In this case the ports report to Intel RST at 6 GB/s, but the drive only operates at 2 GB/s.

Check cables.
I gave up on Intel-RST long ago. I just never install it and use Microsoft Windows driver instead... lean and fast. To get rid of it on existing Win-7 installs, I had to clean-install Windows (and never re-install it).
I don't RAID desktops. Aren't SSDs fast enough? Isn't a real backup better? Anyway RAID is from BIOS anyway.
On 6gbs, I would think you should be getting 450 or better.

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December 13th, 2014 07:00

Well I feel your pain. I guess i was a lucky one. I had no visible damage to my Area 51 when I received it last week. I was disappointed with the lack of information on the machine. My previous Aurora had a lot of info when I received it, this one only had a Quick Start Guide. 

My issue right now is my machine is not activated. I called Tech Support on December 7th and they said the Microsoft would automatically activate my machine 7 days after delivery. Well that has come and gone. Not activated and now I'm getting messages boot up and after the OS has loaded to activate the product. Not Product Key provided as we had before, it is a big mystery. Frankly I don't like this process they are using. 

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December 14th, 2014 12:00

Donovan

That snow looks miserable. How do you know which car is yours?

But today it is 78 degrees in Florida and my dogs are enjoying the Sun. LOL

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I still can not believe Alienware has not replaced the Area 51 damaged in shipping.

I would be so peaved.....

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December 14th, 2014 12:00

I had same issue with Microsoft Office Business.
But I got the Microsoft Product key from Dell and was able to download and activate from Microsoft Website.
Are you saying Dell or ALienware can not provide you with the Product Key?
Thats insane? What am I missing here?
You should call and demand the Product Key.

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December 14th, 2014 13:00

Could someone who got the R2 with a blu-ray drive post a picture of the drive with the information on it. 

62 Posts

December 14th, 2014 14:00

Tech support has "escalated" my issue and will call me Tuesday afternoon with there response. If they muddle this, then "yes" I will demand they give me a product key. This has taken too long to get resolved. 

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December 14th, 2014 15:00

I had previously complained to tech support that the specification for the optical drive in the Area 51 R2 was not published anywhere, so I'm not surprised you don't know it.  My Area 51 R2 came with a DVD-RW; I had always planned to replace it with a blu-ray writer; Dell/AW doesn't offer one.  When the system was delivered, I opened the chassis and discovered that the drive is a

  • 9.5mm ultra-slim slot-loading optical drive without a bezel (bezel is integrated with the front of the Area 51 R2 chassis)

This type of optical drive is the one that is found on the MacBook Pro and a few (not many) Windows laptops.  I'm sure the drive was chosen to fit within the confines of the industrial design for the Area 51 R2 chassis.  If a standard 1/3 height tray drive was chosen, the chassis would have to be made wider ..

Any optical drive that is good for the MacBook Pro will fit in the Area 51 R2.  I got the Panasonic/Matshita UJ-267 (6X BD-RE drive) and it fit like the proverbial hand in glove.  It was on sale at Amazon ..

I'm not sure about the drivers however; I was using an external USB blu-ray drive with the system before I changed out the internal drive and needed to install drivers.

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December 14th, 2014 16:00

My PC finally activated. I had to call Microsoft and go through the phone activation process....a lot of numbers to enter, but it worked. After using a Command Prompt command, I have found the product key and safely stored with my paperwork for the next time I reinstall the OS. 

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December 15th, 2014 00:00

HPDD5 is the part number for the PCIE2 modular cable that isn't shipped with 1500w PSU for those that didn't configure with triple GPU

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December 15th, 2014 17:00

HPDD5 is the part number for the PCIE2 modular cable that isn't shipped with 1500w PSU for those that didn't configure with triple GPU

 

-0930-

Are you sure that's the part number for PCIE2? Because the parts department gave me 9P0X0 for the PCIE2/R3~R4.

  

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Do you have the same part number for PCIE1/R1~R2 is 0TMR06 and PCIE3/R5~R6 is 0JPV3Y?

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