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September 29th, 2019 15:00

Optiplex 760 CPU support help

Hello,

So i ended up getting an older opti-760 with a core 2 duo. Booted it up, updated the bios to a16, and now i want to know if it should handle my old core 2 quad 9650.

According to a few power supply calculators, the 235 watt power supply should handle it.

I have read that there were a few motherboards that were released with this model, some support quad core, some are hard set to only use dual core, but i am unable to find the exact documentation to figure out what board i actually have. I do have my service tag, but browsing dell's support site doesn't give me a whole lot of information in this regard.

Any help would be appreciated.

Phil

  • JOcean

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    Posted September 29th, 2019 17:00

    You did not state which form factor you have but the following should help.

    https://www.dell.com/community/Desktops-General-Read-Only/OptiPlex-760-CPUs/td-p/3958116

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    Serious work on an E5430 and constantly building and working on an i5-6500 Desktop

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    Posted September 29th, 2019 18:00

    Optiplex 760 Tech Guide 

    Hi @Phippy,

    It's not said what size your 760 is - MT, DT, SFF, or USFF?  I'm guessing it's not an MT due to 235w PSU.

    All models of the 760, except the USFF, can take the C2Q Q9650.

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    Posted September 29th, 2019 18:00

    Since you just got that 760 and it's a bit older, you might try a new size 2032 CMOS battery.  Meanwhile, you also try removing the current battery, wait about 10 min., and re-install.

    The problem you're having is not jumper related that I know of.  Also, the Tech Guide doesn't say you can use the Q9650 per a certain MB your 760 may have.  It's just the USFF that can't take the Q9650.

    Also, you were right about updating the BIOS first.  I double-checked and was a bit surprised A16 is the latest BIOS for the 760.  The latest BIOS for my 755 is A22.  I guess that's Dell for ya'.

    May be @JOcean will have more ideas?

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    Posted September 29th, 2019 18:00

    Hey, thank you for the reply!

    The unit is a SFF. I went ahead and tried the CPU while i was waiting, but it gave an "Unsupported CPU detected" message. Again, without any motherboard documentation, i don't know if that's that, or if there may be a jumper or something i am simply over looking. Any ideas?

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    Posted September 29th, 2019 20:00

    good call in the 2032 battery. I pulled it out, and waited 20 min. I then turned it on without the battery, and then with the battery, but the same results with same error message. (Yes, the power cord was disconnected along with all other external cables during the 20 min.

    So i am back to square one. it seems =/

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    Posted September 30th, 2019 04:00

    From the link I posted and further down the replies was this one from speedstep which I failed to see earlier.

     

    "SFF and USFF do not support quads. Power supply is too small and does not have a 375W upgrade.

    The smith tower has 305w power supply usff has 230w power."

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    Posted September 30th, 2019 10:00

    Bradthetechnut mentioned an opti-755. Does the SFF 755 support a quad? If so I can pick that up. Otherwise I’ll end up with an hp.

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    Posted September 30th, 2019 11:00

    Un supported due to power supply and motherboard regulator issues.

    Other Dell models like Inspiron 530 for example have 350W power supply when there is a quad core cpu.

    Even Optiplex 755 models require 305W power supply for core 2 quads.

    The  DT SFF USFF power supply does not support Quads.

    You are limited to

    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8600/3.33GHz, 6M, 1333FSB

    Only the Tower Does and only with specific Motherboards.

    The Optiplex 760 MT uses two motherboards -
    T674K Non-Quad core CPU motherboard
    U562N Quad core CPU motherboard

    Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9650/3.00GHz, 12M, 1333FSB

    You  you cannot use a quad core CPU on it.

    38G73 E7400, 2.8GHz, 3MB, WFD, R0, (With VT)
    F31F5 E7500, 2.93GHz, 3MB, WFD, R0, (With VT)
    06YMG Dual Core E7600, 3.06GHz, 3MB, R0, (With VT)
    H399J Dual Core E8400, 3.0GHz, 6MB, 65W, E0, 1333FSB
    D923J Dual Core E8500, 3.16GHz, 6MB, 65W, E0, 1333FSB
    N654J Wolfdale Processor E8600, 3.33GHz

     

     

    Intel Core2 Quad

    Intel Core2 Duo

    Intel Pentium Dual-Core

    Model

    Q9550 Q9650 Q9400 Q8300 Q8200

    E8600 E8500 E8400 E8300

    E7300 E7200

    E6550

    E4700

    E2220 E2200

     Cores

    4

    2

    2

    2

    2

    2

     FSB speed

    1333 MHz

    1333 MHz

    1066 MHz

    1333 MHz

    800 MHz

    800 MHz

     L2 Cache size

    12 MB
    4 MB

    6 MB

    3 MB

    4 MB

    2 MB

    1 MB

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    Posted September 30th, 2019 11:00

    Ok! Thank you all for the amazing help and support with this issue. I’ll have to see about swapping out the dell for the hp system and hope the larger power supply will let me swap out the cpu.

     

    thanks again

    phil

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    Posted September 30th, 2019 12:00

    Optiplex 755 Tech Guide 

    How does a person believe that the 760 or 755 DT or SFF do not support quads when it's in the Tech Guide that they do?  It doesn't say any other modification required to support the quad.  Why would Dell print that if it's not true?

    Hi again @Phippy,

    If you find that the CPU doesn't work in another PC that should be able to take it within specs, you might have a bad CPU.

    According to the tech guide, only the USFF model of the 755 doesn't support a quad.

    Also, MT's are better for modifying than SFF's.