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June 30th, 2008 05:00

device creation failed

i just tried to create 16GB raid 5 device using SMC .. but the device creation failed while preparing required resource. The error details logged in symapi log.. where can i find symapi log in SMC ?
  • bodnarg

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    Posted July 1st, 2008 04:00

    The capacity you are listing is the size that you want the symmetrix device to be when you are all done. For Raid-5 it will create the required space on the 4 drives that it needs for protection (about 25% of the size)

    The disk groups are something your CE could have created when he loaded your drives. Basically it is a logical grouping of drives that is typically used to help isolate workloads (i.e. maybe you put your tier 1 apps in one disk group and a data warehouse application in another disk group)

    For configuration purposes it is a way to isolate on what set of physical drives your devices will be built.

    As for the size issue in your next comment - not sure - check to make sure you do not have spaces or some other garbage in your input field.
  • dynamox

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    Posted June 30th, 2008 05:00

    $Install_Drive\Program Files\EMC\symapi\log - on Windows
    /var/symapi/log - typical location for *nix
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    Posted June 30th, 2008 05:00

    On the host running Solutions Enabler (which could be the same machine as the SMC host), or could be a remote machine if you're using the SYMAPI server.

    Anyway, the logs (by default) are in:
    /var/symapi/log for unix
    Program Files\Emc\SYMAPI\log on Windows

    You'll need to look at the end of the most recent symapi- .log file.

    Hope that helps!
    Marc
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    Posted June 30th, 2008 20:00

    thanks for the info. since this is the first time i am creating sym dev using SMC, pls guide me ..

    basically, i need to create 16 GB raid 5[3+1] device. I have chosen the option create device by right on clicking on dmx array. following inputs are displayed ..

    Number devices :
    configuration : [ raid 5]
    emulation : [FBA]
    capacity for each device : [i do know that it requires 4 devices to form a 3+1 raid 5 device. thus, should i enter 4xrequired cylinders to create a 3+1 device? and, what should be cyl size ?
    disk group number: [ what is the group #?]
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    Posted June 30th, 2008 22:00

    Cylinders = GB / 15 / 128 / 512 then multiply result by 1024*1024*1024

    with the above calculation, i have entered 18414 cylinders to get ~16GB . but , after entering # of cyl, it shows 17 MB as equivalent.
  • xe2sdc

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    Posted July 1st, 2008 15:00

    For Raid-5 it will create the required space
    on the 4 drives that it needs for protection (about
    25% of the size)

    I'd say it's exactly 33% of the size ;-)

    The disk groups are something your CE could have
    created when he loaded your drives. Basically it is
    a logical grouping of drives that is typically used
    to help isolate workloads (i.e. maybe you put your
    tier 1 apps in one disk group and a data warehouse
    application in another disk group)


    DG are enforced by symwin when you have different drive types in your backend .. You must use 2 disk groups if you have both 146Gb@15K and 300Gb@10K ..
    CEs usually tend to put new drives (added after initial configuration of storage) in brand new DGs to be able to "draw" new devices only on new devices without spreading hypers around. There are a lot of reasons for having different DGs in your binfile... :D
    Not all as good as the one you mentioned .. but there are many :D

    For configuration purposes it is a way to isolate on
    what set of physical drives your devices will be
    built.

    As I said, just like our CEs usually do if you don't tell them what you DO want :D
  • xe2sdc

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    Posted July 1st, 2008 15:00

    Somewhere (in Eng land) Kb is 1024 bytes (2^10) ... Somewhere else (in Sales land) a Kb is 1000 bytes (10^3) ... This is something like imperial and metric systems .. You have to translate and noone will ever change his mind ;-)

    1 cyl = 960 kb

    18414 * 960 = 17677440 kb

    but if you round things too much and do your math like an Eng, the Sales man will understand you are talking about a 17 Gb drive ;-)
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    Posted July 1st, 2008 21:00

    DG are enforced by symwin when you have different drive types in your backend .. You must use 2 disk groups if you have both 146Gb@15K and 300Gb@10K


    But, while forming a meta using SMC, is there anyway i can distinguish the device in a way which DG it belongs to. So that i can able to isolate workload between apps.

    in the form meta screen, i dont see disk group info and disk the speed info. actually, we have created few disk groups based on disk speed.
  • bodnarg

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    Posted July 2nd, 2008 04:00

    I said about 25% - I was off by just 8% :D

    Actually odd thing I've noticed that it really seems to get closer to 34% on Raid-5 (3+1) setups - must reserve some space or round-up on a cylinder boundary or something. Noticed this trying to create some SAVE devices for a DSE pool out of unused space and had to back into the right size for the device since it was not working out exactly on the 33% boundary.
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    Posted July 2nd, 2008 05:00

    I have just tried to create 17GB Raid 5 (3+1) devices on disk group 1, which has lots of free spaces. But getting following error

    The requested device(s) cannot be created because mirrors cannot be distributed according protection requirements
    definition_error : CFGCHG_C_MIRROR_POLICY

    please share your thoughts as always :)