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December 5th, 2003 23:00

Installing software

In installing new software (or uninstalling something) what is the advisable procedure: close all open programs? Everything in the system tray that can be closed? Most things that come up with a alt-shft-del? Temporary files? Recycle bin? How much of this is necessary?
  • gryjhnhpe

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    Posted December 6th, 2003 00:00

    Just Close any Minimized Windows by  right click on Tasbar tab & click "Close".
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    Posted December 6th, 2003 01:00

    To install I throw the CD into the drive and let it rip.  If the application neeeds anything stopped or terminated, it, the application being installed will ask you.  This assumes that the application being installed is "well written".  To unstall either go to control panel, add/remove programs, and select the program to be uninstalled.  If procedure requires a reboot after, if so they will ask for it.
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    Posted December 6th, 2003 02:00

    Its always a good idea to disable your anti-virus when installing software. Unless, of couse, its something from an uncertain source or a hacked or warez version, which you shouldn't be installing anyway. 

    Message Edited by jakeleg on 12-05-2003 10:45 PM

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    Posted December 6th, 2003 02:00

    Why?????????????????????  Lets see, I installed on four PCs, Microsoft 2003 Microsoft Visual Studio ,NET 2003, Varitas Backup Exec, Visio,  Ad-Adare Spybot,  Real Player, WinDVD,  Adobe Reader, Weather Bug, MediaFace II, Paint Shop Pro version 5, WinZip, EZCD Creater 6 +...+, never turned off virus checking, never had a problem.  P.S.  Nor do I turn off anything when I download and install Microsoft updates

    Message Edited by msgale on 12-05-2003 11:05 PM

    Message Edited by msgale on 12-05-2003 11:07 PM

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    Posted December 6th, 2003 03:00

    While the risk of anit-virus causing problems may be rare, it does exist. It can cause problems with Windows Update control,  http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=243787, and with installations of programs that install certain scripts or change system settings.

         "When Auto-Protect is enabled, it can interfere with software installation. After all, the purpose of virus protection is to monitor and prevent changes to your system—and when you install software, the installer writes changes to your system files.

         Problems with installation may not be apparent until you use a particular feature or set of features that were affected by the virus protection utility. At that point, identifying the cause of the problem can be difficult, and the only solution is to uninstall the application and reinstall it with virus protection software disabled."

      http://www.techsoup.org/howto/articlepage.cfm?articleid=512&topicid=2

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    Posted December 6th, 2003 10:00

    I read the first article, and it is about a single specific issue with I.E and Windows Update Product Catalog under a specific scenario.  It is certainly not a general recommendation.  In fact the article implies that you should not download with anti-virus turned off.  In addition the issue is about viewing a page not doing a installation.  Next the article specifically refers to IE 6.0 and Windows 98 or IE 6.0 and Win ME.  Tracing the references on the page lead me to Windows NT 4.0 references.  There appear to be no references from this century.
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    Posted December 6th, 2003 10:00

    I read your second reference, and though you quoted the source  correctly I disagree.  Consider "After all, the purpose of virus protection is to monitor and prevent changes to your system—and when you install software, the installer writes changes to your system files."  If the were true then how could you install anything safely.  If anti-virus is on then you shouldn't install, and when the anti-virus is off changes to system files are allowed, which makes you vulnerable to viruses.  The problem here is the quoted statement is false.  System files are protected by file permissions. The key to anti-virus is not looking for changes, but preventation of dangerous changes. You don't want to get a virus and try to remove it, you don't want to get it in the first place.  Auto-Protect in Norton sole purpose is to incercept any new file and insure that it is not infected.  P.S.  Except for required changes in the registry most new software does not change system files.  
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    Posted December 6th, 2003 18:00

    I have several programs that, on install specifically warn about disbling AV. It depends on the software. I usually disable as a matter of habit. If you know that the install is virus free (you can always scan it first), and you are disconnected when installing, it does no harm to disable AV before install.
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    Posted December 6th, 2003 20:00

    I really curious, could you supply me with the names of the programs.

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    Posted December 7th, 2003 02:00

    Thank you for the reply.  I am in the process of digesting it now.