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December 23rd, 2021 12:00

XPS 8930, help with replacing SSD boot drive

I replaced 256G SSD card with a WD black SN750 Nvme 500GB ssd that was cloned from original 256G that was on XPS 8930. Now the PC boots extremely slow. I tried switching from RAID to AHCI but would not boot. This has probably been asked before but I can't seem to find the solution. I would like to also change the boot priority to boot from the cloned SSD but can't seem to get there on BIOS.

  • RoHe

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    Posted December 23rd, 2021 16:00

    @dteckie  What version of the Realtek audio driver is listed in Device Manager?

    A recent driver update to Realtek audio driver v6.0.9205.1 was forced on the XPS 8930 by Windows Update. It causes very slow booting. And/or, if you recently updated to Win 10 21H2 or to Win 11, you got that same bum Realtek driver automatically.

    If Realtek audio driver v6.0.9205.1 is listed in Device Manager, use the Roll-Back button in Device Manager to go back to the prior installed version. You want Realtek v6.0.9107.1 which was the most recent prior version or v6.0.1.8248 which was the one before 9107. 

    If the Roll-Back button is grayed out or if it rolls back to any Realtek driver other than the two I listed, just right-click and uninstall RealTek audio in Device Manager and, without rebooting, download and install v6.0.1.8248 from here

    Unfortunately, Dell removed the link for 9107, but I'm running this version on my XPS 8930 and it works OK.

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    Posted December 29th, 2021 05:00

    Roho  Wow! your answer about the Realtek audio drivers seems to have been the culprit and the solution. I never used the realtek Audio on the MOBO since I had the PC. I always used the Sound Blaster card and sound drivers. I decided to uninstall the Realtek drivers even though I never used it. I had the realtek drivers dissabled from loading. What a difference it makes booting up. The Realtek drivers must have reloaded and enabled during a windows update. Thank you! Thank You1 Problem solved. I never would have suspected those drivers were the culprit.

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    Posted December 23rd, 2021 12:00

    If you are okay with clean install, then I would suggest you do a fresh clean install of Windows 10 on the NVMe ssd.  It is good idea you changed sata operation to AHCI.  Clean install of OS may be more straightforward than cloning from old ssd.    Downside is losing old data. You would need to reinstall custom applications.

    clean install uses a bootable usb media prepared by MS media creation tool.  All old partitions on the new ssd will be deleted, then new partitions created, primary partition formatted.

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    Posted December 23rd, 2021 13:00

    @dteckie Can you tell us the process you used to clone to the new WD SSD because I suspect a cloning error? You cannot change SATA operation from RAID to AHCI by just changing the setting in the BIOS; there is a procedure the needs to be followed to do that. (Note that in the procedure the BIOS change in mot made until you get to step 4) I assume you were booting from the 256G SSD previously so you should not need to change the boot priority to boot from the new replacement SSD. 

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    Posted December 24th, 2021 05:00

    Not an Option. It would take me several days to re install all the software, drivers config. Serial Numbers etc. Back in the old days you get CD's with installation apps and SN on the cd. Today everything is Downloaded and Trying to find  where all the App S/n are will be a nightmare. If have always cloned my boot drive in case of drive dies or gets corrupted. Which it has happened several times in my pc life since windows 3. I'd rather just get a fresh new PC than have to re install OS.

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    Posted December 24th, 2021 05:00

    Don't believe it's a cloning error because the SSD boots fine it just takes a long time compared to original SSD I replaced. All I did was replace the boot pciE 256G SSD which came with Purchased Dell pc. It was running out of storage space. I replaced it with a WD 500g SSD. I initiated the New SSD and then connected it to SATA cable and used Acronis Clone app to clone original boot SSD. If I replace the old SSD it boots up within 30 - 35 seconds to boot up. The new Cloned SSD takes almost 2 minutes to boot up.

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    Posted December 24th, 2021 06:00

    Roho I'm not using the realtek Audio. I have it disabled. I'm using A Sound Blaster Card for all audio. It's far superior than realtek and it's 5.1 speakers. I'm into music and need a good audio sound system.

  • redxps630

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    Posted December 24th, 2021 06:00

    Re: I replaced 256G SSD card with a WD black SN750 Nvme 500GB ssd that was cloned from original 256G that was on XPS 8930. Now the PC boots extremely slow. I tried switching from RAID to AHCI but would not boot.  I would like to also change the boot priority to boot from the cloned SSD but can't seem to get there on BIOS.

    Was the original 8930 256Gb ssd a 2.5 sata ssd?  I presume the old ssd was connected to sata cables, and new ssd installed in M.2 slot.
    If your cloning was performed when bios was set to RAID, then that might be a problem.  If you have afterwards switched sata operation to AHCI inside bios, then I would suggest boot from the old ssd and try to clone again (see “best solution” below)

    Re: All I did was replace the boot pciE 256G SSD which came with Purchased Dell pc. It was running out of storage space. I replaced it with a WD 500g SSD. I initiated the New SSD and then connected it to SATA cable and used Acronis Clone app to clone original boot SSD.

    one user had similar extremely slow boot issue and found this the “best solution”:

    Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
    Download and install Macrium Reflect
    If you are cloning from a SATA drive to PCIe/NVMe, install the relevant driver for this new NVMe/PCIe drive.
    Power off
    Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
    Power up
    Run the Macrium Reflect
    Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive

    If you are going from a smaller drive to a larger, by default, the target partition size will be the same as the Source. You probably don't want that
    You can manipulate the size of the partitions on the target (larger)drive
    Click on "Cloned Partition Properties", and you can specifiy the resulting partition size, to even include the whole thing

    Click the 'Clone' button
    Wait until it is done
    When it finishes, power off
    Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
    This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD

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    Posted December 24th, 2021 07:00

    Sorry for the misunderstanding. I replaced the original factory SSD 256G with the 500G WD Black SN750 NVMe. I connected SSD card with an USB adapter from Amazon.  It connects the M.2 SSD card to USB3 port. Sorry for the wrong info on connecting to Sata.

    . It's been a few weeks and I have forgotten some of the steps. The adapter was only 19.99 and it was the only way I can connect the PCIE card to the PC to clone it.

     

  • Vic384

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    Posted December 24th, 2021 07:00

    @dteckie I am confused. You stated originally that the WD is a SN750 NVMe 500 GB SSD, but now you stated you initiated the new SSD and then connected it to a SATA cable. How can you connect a NVMe SSD with a SATA cable?