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15 R3, OC controls Predefined Profiles Missing/Data Config unavailable

I have the same problem but on an Alienware 15 R3

  • MFattal

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    Posted March 31st, 2020 15:00

    Glad we will hopefully find a solution together through someone at Dell or some brilliant individual out there. @morkovu @Aefy @Gaz1878  Glad that you were able to confirm that you are also suffering from the same problem. 

     

    I also agree that a computer with so much potential should be held back by a programming flaw. In my opinion, it's Windows that's stopping a update from occurring. Hopefully we'll get an answer soon. If you get a way to fix it please inform us here! 

  • Aefy

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    Posted April 1st, 2020 07:00

    Yes, we are still awaiting help with this issue.

    I tried to email Technical Support, but they simply told me to "try to reinstall the Alienware Command Center Application", which did not help at all.


    Can one of the Alienware Liaisons help by chance ^-^?

  • ask_j

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    Posted April 1st, 2020 16:00

    I contacted the support and they told me to reinstall too, I am out of warranty and they said they can't guide me without paying them the money. 

    I understand that they need the money for the support, but why do I need to pay for the faulty software? I told them that there are many people facing this issue, they said there is no recall!!!

    I really don't know what they will fix or how we will get the support!!

     

    After paying $1700 for the machine which is overclock-able, then we need to pay extra for the faulty software? I don't agree with that..

  • r72019

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    Posted April 1st, 2020 18:00

    So in summary, TLDR, check your windows security, defender, or antivirus settings, it seems like something may be preventing OC controls from fully loading since I was able to get around the OC service stopped error message by allowing OC to make changes to my PC. 

  • r72019

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    Posted April 1st, 2020 18:00


    @ask_j wrote:

    can't see any pictures


    Yeah, they need to be mod approved, since it's after hours, Dell probably won't get to it until sometime tomorrow. 

  • r72019

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    Posted April 1st, 2020 18:00

    The messages that occurred are the following (all on OC Controls):
    1) OC controls- A service required by the application is stopped. Do you want to start the service?

    Since I am still under warranty, I was inspired to see if I have this problem too.  I start out with the same error message you get.  But I am able to bypass it by authorizing windows to make changes to my system (must be logged in as an administrator - see photos). I'm not sure if this will solve your problem, but perhaps it my help someone troubleshoot this. 

    Also, your issue with AWCC reminds me that even when OC Controls is "working," it is really buggy and auto loads a custom overclocking profile that I did not create or load.  Merely toggling the OC button between "on" and "off" will result in my CPU being overclocked to a custom profile on restart. I have to go into BIOS to return everything to normal. This is the unfortunate sequence of events for me: 

    1.  I get the same "service stopped" message under OC Controls that you get (photo 1): 

    Service stoppedService stopped

     

    2. After clicking yes to start the service, a windows alert popup shows, asking to authorize Dell OC Controls to make changes to your PC (photo 2): 

     

    Windows security alertWindows security alert

    My administrator account settings (photo 3): 

    3 OC.png

    3. After allowing the popup to make changes to my system, OC Controls loads, and says it needs to restart (photo 4)

    restart requiredrestart required

     

    4.  I toggle OC to disabled in AWCC, turn everything off. (photo 5)

    OC DisabledOC Disabled

    5.  The next time I restart the PC, it does the overclocking settings have changed double blink followed by momentary black screen while it loads new settings.  Then, I restart, go in to BIOS, and it shows that AWCC had loaded a custom OC profile which I did not create, even after turning OC off in AWCC.  (photo 6)

     

    Custom OC profile loadedCustom OC profile loaded

    So now I have to go back and change all these settings in BIOS to fix this.  In summary, whatever is preventing you from loading OC controls is doing you a favor.  But, if you still want it, hopefully something I've showed above will help you troubleshoot this. 

     

  • ask_j

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    Posted April 1st, 2020 18:00

    can't see any pictures

  • ask_j

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    Posted April 2nd, 2020 07:00

    Thanks for the pics. I am logged in as Admin, I got the pop ups same as 1st and 2nd pictures. But I still received the errors as mentioned in the post by  @Gaz1878

    Which version of AWCC and OC Controls are you using? Can you post the links?

  • r72019

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    Posted April 2nd, 2020 10:00

    Yes, I'll get back this evening.

  • Aefy

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    Posted April 2nd, 2020 16:00

    That error message always popped up before, but before you could just click to allow access & it worked, as you showed in your screenshots.

    However, now, that doesn't work anymore. Instead it just says the "predfined profiles missing" and gives the 3 pop-ups of the original post. I've reinstalled Windows 4 times so far to try to fix this issue, and the user account control settings (the administrator settings you showed) do NOT change anything.

    My computer has been unusuable since this occured. I cannot play games properly, as the processor keeps messing up, even with OC controls entirely uninstalled. I'm very disappointed, as the machine was semi-usuable with the OC controls working, although still far below what you'd expect for the parts that are in the Aurora R7 I purchased.

    This was a $2,500 machine in 2018, yet it performs the same or worse than my old custom-built computer now that the OC Controls program isn't working. 

    Old Computer setup
    GTX660
    AMD FX8320 & regular air-cooling
    24GB DDR3 RAM
    500GB SSD

    Aurora R7 setup

    RTX2080
    Intel i7-8700K & liquid cooling
    850W PSU
    32GB DDR4 RAM

    I don't think I should be dropping to 140-160FPS in League of Legends on the lowest graphic settings with the Aurora R7,  but that's what happens sometimes in-game. These kinds of FPS spikes are consistent in most games, although some are more affected than others.

    The older computer also maintained 200+ FPS in League, never noticed stuttering or lag spikes,and it felt smooth as butter. Although I noticed it was a bit slower, since I wanted to get a 240hz monitor, as the years went on. That's what led me to purchase the Aurora R7. 

    Now my FPS will literally be 130 at times in League of Legends, on the very lowest graphic settings, with a RTX2080 & Intel i7-8700K. It makes absolutely no sense at all, but that's the reality that I live with currently.

    I don't think I should have to pay $80 to get "support" to get halfway decent performance for a PC was purchased in 2018, especially when that PC has the RTX2080 and Intel i7-8700K. Logically any PC built with a RTX2080 and i7-8700K should easily maintain 240FPS in League of Legends, and the performance of the Aurora R7 is shockingly subpar.