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About overheating
Hi everyone. I recently saw his post: http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=xps_desk_genhdw&thread.id=48273&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 and I was wondering: Ever since I got my new sound card (Xtreme Gamer) my computer temperature went up by about 10C...so While I play games it is 90 and they start artifacting(strange textures and weird glitches). Anyway my question is that if I get those fans from that post do I need a new power supply or anything extra? Or could I use the XPS 410's stock power supply. THANX
- Question? Are you getting the system temperature according to what the GPU Ambient Temperature reads, and did you install the sound card in the PCI slot directly below the video card? If so, that explains the increase. Otherwise, I'm with contrvlr. There's something wrong, and I'd discontinue use of the sound card.
- I've never heard about a sound card overheating a system...
The only way I think it could impact on cooling if its somehow disrupting or blocking air flow through your case.
I can't see how it would, but if it does keep your temps high just take it out & use stock sound on the mobo. It's usually pretty good unless your running a 5.1 or 7.1 system. gl mate! - "there will be no blockage."Not outright, and you wouldn't think an adjacent card would alter the overall airflow that much. But sound cards don't dissipate to speak of, and something is altering display card cooling when the sound card is installed.
x_lab rat wrote:
"somehow disrupting or blocking air flow "True story. Move the sound card. BUT: As late as 2005, audio cards could be fussy about what slot they were in. I don't know if that's still the case, you'll soon find out.
In an XPS410 BTX style box the video card is mounted with it's cooler facing up, there will be no blockage. The disruption of airflow beneath the card shouldn't cause a +17c difference in temps at idle. Keep in mind that the lower case fan is blowing directly at whatever pci cards are installed.The sound card should be able to be used in any available slot, it has long been recommended that it be placed as far from the cpu as is possible.
x_lab rat wrote:
Not outright, and you wouldn't think an adjacent card would alter the overall airflow that much. But sound cards don't dissipate to speak of, and something is altering display card cooling when the sound card is installed.
The Extreme Gamer is basically a low profile card, so it will alter airflow less than a full width card would, and it has a fairly substantial ( for a sound card ) heatsink, so it should dissipate any heat created. That heatsink ends up being almost directly below the graphics chip when installed directly below the video, so I could see video temps going up slightly, but 17c ?
Ledswinger
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Posted December 14th, 2007 15:00
I've got a 410 (D9200) and following a long period tracing system stability and sound problems, I identified that the problems were caused by the Creative XFi having problems sharing an IRQ with all the other peripherals (Vista had allocated all PCI devices onto a single IRQ when installed). Moving the sound card up a slot solved these problems because Vista allocated a new IRQ to this "new" hardware, but I've noticed slightly raised fan noise levels - and looking at this thread, I thought it worth checking the GPU temp, and lo and behold, 64C at idle.
So, I don't think that the XFi has a problem with a specific PCI slot, but it can cause system problems and sound difficulties if sharing an IRQ with the graphics card and everything else. This may apply to XP just as much as Vista, because Creative cards have been notorious for not wanting to share IRQs for many years.
I also confirm that have the XFi in too high a slot interferes with air flow and causes the GPU to run too hot for comfort. At a guess, the XFi (and potentially any other PCI card in that slot) is stopping the GPU cooler picking up the cooler air from the bottom of the case, and instead taking it directly from the stream out of the CPU fan?
Either way, the original poster's problem is replicated, and the obvious solution is to move the sound card as low as possible, but to check those IRQ's. Symptoms of an XFi IRQ problem include loss of sound, loss of specific channels, channel mix ups, system sleep mode problems etc.
I'm going to try and sort this out on my machine, and I'll let you know how I get on. Pah! And I thought that having sorted the IRQ problem everything was hunkydory. So much for BTX!
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contrvlr
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Posted December 13th, 2007 01:00