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February 20th, 2014 03:00

Alienware Aurora R4 and Corsair Vengeance Pro 1866

Hi,

I just bought a new Aurora R4 from the Dell Outlet, and picked up this memory: http://www.corsair.com/en/memory-by-product-family/vengeance-pro-series-memory/vengeance-pro-series-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr3-dram-1866mhz-c9-memory-kit-cmy32gx3m4a1866c9.html from elsewhere, as the system I ordered didn't have much RAM. (The memory modules I ordered are 1866MHz, which my CPU does support.)

I've had a great deal of problems getting the machine to post with all four memory sticks in. At the moment, the only way I can get it to POST is to swap out one of my new memory sticks (doesn't matter which) with one of the slow memory sticks the machine shipped with. This forces the bios to set the memory speed to 1333MHz with relaxed timings, and then it will boot. I was able to get it to boot with all four sticks by setting all of the timings to manual and copying them from the settings with a mix of the new and old sticks, but even increasing the speed to 1600MHz seems to always result in the system failing to POST.

Alienware phone support weren't particularly helpful. (In fact they were rather rude, and wasted a whole load of my time with redundant tests.) Their answer basically was "you didn't buy the RAM from us, so it's not our problem". However, given this is marketed as a machine for enthusiasts this response doesn't really seem appropriate. It's not like I'm using some no-brand memory modules, these are the mid-market modules from one of the largest memory suppliers. In the past, I've always built my own PCs, and I would be horrified if I had these problems with an off the shelf motherboard I'd bought. I expect support from Dell to be better than support from a motherboard manufacturer, not worse.

Has had anyone had similar problems? Do you have any thoughts on what might be causing the problems, and what I can do to fix them?

Thanks in advance,

Tom

February 20th, 2014 07:00

The memory types supported by the Aurora R4 are only 1600 MHz or 2133 MHz XMP. That could be the situation. Try switching those out for any of those 2 configs.

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February 20th, 2014 08:00

This was posted by Chris from Dell a few years back. Ir would most likey apply to the R4 BIOS. Aurora-R1 * Six memory slots (2/1,4/3,6/5) * Matched memory modules are installed in DIMM connectors 1/3/5 or 1-6 * To run in Tri-Channel mode (3 lanes), memory must be installed in multiples of 3 * Maximum memory 24GB (1067MHz and 1333MHz) or 12GB (1600MHz XMP) * For PC3-12800 and PC3-15000 XMP memory, go into the Bios and turn on XMP. Go into the Overvoltage Config and set QPI and Uncore voltage to +200mv. Leave everything else on Auto * Dell Part numbers - R1HVP 2GB, 1866MHz PC3-15000, 256X64, XMP 0TDWJ 4GB, 1600MHz PC3-12800, 512x64, XMP 0PV61 2GB, 1600MHz PC3-12800, 256X64, XMP 5DX3Y 2GB, 1600MHz PC3-12800, 256X64, XMP H345K 1GB, 1600MHz PC3-12800, 128X64 P382H 4GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 512X64 P223C 2GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 128X64 1N7HK 2GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 128X64 TW149 1GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 128X64 N852H 4GB, 1066MHz PC3-8500, 512X64 Y996D 2GB, 1066MHz PC3-8500, 256X64 F680F 1GB, 1066MHz PC3-8500, 128X64 Aurora-R2 * Four memory slots (3/1, 4/2) * Matched memory modules are installed in DIMM connectors 3/1, 4/2, or 1-4 * Maximum memory 16GB (1067MHz and 1333MHz) or 16GB (1600MHz XMP) * For PC3-12800 XMP memory, go into the Bios and turn on XMP. Go into the Overvoltage Config and set QPI and Uncore voltage to +200mv. Leave everything else on Auto * Dell Part numbers - 0TDWJ 4GB, 1600MHz PC3-12800, 512x64, XMP 0PV61 2GB, 1600MHz PC3-12800, 256X64, XMP 5DX3Y 2GB, 1600MHz PC3-12800, 256X64, XMP P382H 4GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 512X64 1N7HK 2GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 128X64 P223C 2GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 128X64 N852H 4GB, 1066MHz PC3-8500, 512X64 Y996D 2GB, 1066MHz PC3-8500, 256X64 Area-51 * Three memory slots * Matched memory modules installed in DIMM connectors 1/2/3 * To run in Tri-Channel mode (3 lanes), memory must be installed in multiples of 3 * Maximum memory 12GB * A09 = For PC3-12800 and PC3-15000 XMP memory, go into the Bios and turn on XMP. Go into the Overvoltage Config and set QPI and Uncore voltage to +200mv. Leave everything else on Auto * A10 = For PC3-12800 and PC3-15000 XMP memory, go into the Bios and turn off XMP. Then set the memory multiplier to 14, set Uncore to +200 * Dell Part numbers - R1HVP 2GB, 1866MHZ PC3-15000, 256X64, XMP YGWPH 4GB, 1600MHz PC3-12800, 512X64, XMP (Do NOT use with Gulftown processors 1G5M7, F3VGJ, XVN0Y) 0TDWJ 4GB, 1600MHz PC3-12800, 512x64, XMP 0PV61 2GB, 1600MHZ PC3-12800, 256X64, XMP 5DX3Y 2GB, 1600MHZ PC3-12800, 256X64, XMP P382H 4GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 512X64 1N7HK 2GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 128X64 P223C 2GB, 1333MHz PC3-10600, 128X64 N852H 4GB, 1066MHz PC3-8500, 512X64 Y996D 2GB, 1066MHz PC3-8500, 256X64

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February 20th, 2014 16:00

The memory types supported by the Aurora R4 are only 1600 MHz or 2133 MHz XMP. That could be the situation. Try switching those out for any of those 2 configs.

 

It won't boot at 1600MHz with any timings, so I don't think it's that.

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February 20th, 2014 16:00

This sounds like useful advice. Thanks. I hadn't thought of setting "QPI and Uncore voltage to +200mv". (My PCs currently transferring a lot of files from my backup machine though, so I can't touch it for a while.)


If anyone else has similar problems to me, what I found to half-work was the following. Boot with 3 of the Corsair modules and 1 of the Dell originals. Go in to bios, and set the memory voltage to 1.5, the memory speed to 1333MHz (="5"), and the memory timings to manual, copying across the values it's currently on. Save, restart, then shut down and replace the Dell module with the 4th Corsair one. Hopefully, it will still boot, then go into bios, and turn off XMP (doing this was not an available option with mixed RAM). Once you've turned off XMP you can then set the speed and timings back to AUTO, and reboot. However, the AUTO speed will still select 1333MHz, though the timings will be a bit tighter at least.

I've never yet got 1600MHz to work, with any timings. Perhaps the QPI and Uncore voltage thing mentioned previously might help though.

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