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October 22nd, 2015 07:00
Avamar 6 Client and Windows 2003 - VSS Backup Problems
Hi,
It seems that I have to debug some sort of interesting problem around Avamar client 6.1.102 - 47 / Windows 2003 R2 X64 SP2.
On two Windows 2003 servers that have maybe experienced some kind of patition resize during their life we get a bunch backup errors...
The "system state" backup has been made really fine.
But when the data backup starts the Avamar client tries many time to create snapshops :
(...)
2015-10-21 02:19:08 avtar Info <6076>: VSS waiting one minute for snapshot resources to become available
2015-10-21 02:20:08 avtar Info <10967>: Found System Provider GUID. Will be using the System Provider GUID to perform backup
2015-10-21 02:20:08 avtar Info <8776>: Creating snapshot set...
2015-10-21 02:20:08 avtar Info <8780>: Creating the shadow (DoSnapshotSet) ...
2015-10-21 02:23:49 avtar Info <8688>: Status 2015-10-21 02:23:49, 0 bytes (0 bytes, 0.00% new) 61MB 0% CPU
2015-10-21 02:38:49 avtar Info <8688>: Status 2015-10-21 02:38:49, 0 bytes (0 bytes, 0.00% new) 61MB 0% CPU
2015-10-21 02:40:19 avtar Info <6076>: VSS waiting one minute for snapshot resources to become available
2015-10-21 02:41:19 avtar Info <10662>: Unable to create volume snapshot; backup proceeding with original (non-snapshot) volume content. Some file content may not be backed up.
2015-10-21 02:41:19 avtar Info <7324>: Volume Type for "\" is "NTFS", Supports Compression=1, Encryption=1, ACLS=1, DataStreams=1, Reparse=1, Sparse=1
(...)
And then all the files that are under use by the system, classically can't being save by the Avamar client...
From here are the questions:
- Why the VSS option can't create the necessary snapshop in order to perform a VSS backup on this server ?
- Do we have some know issues that could explain this problem ?
- Does a previous partition resize on a server could cause the VSS snapshot process to fail ?
Thanks for your answers
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umichklewis
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October 22nd, 2015 09:00
You'll need to debug this problem on the Windows side. Since you've resized partitions, there's a change the VSS writer is running out of room. Windows has a command line tool called "vssadmin" you can use to view the VSS writers that are defined and in use. If you google vssadmin, you can get the syntax to list the VSS writers, their state (stable, failed, etc.) and how much shadow space is in use.
Let us know if that helps!
timespace
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October 23rd, 2015 00:00
@ Karl,
Many Thx for your answer.
Here are the command line results :
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C:\Documents and Settings\admin>vssadmin list providers
vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
(C) Copyright 2001 Microsoft Corp.
Provider name: 'Microsoft Software Shadow Copy provider 1.0'
Provider type: System
Provider Id: {b5946137-7b9f-4925-af80-51abd60b20d5}
Version: 1.0.0.7
C:\Documents and Settings\admin>Vssadmin list volumes
vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
(C) Copyright 2001 Microsoft Corp.
Volume path: C:\
Volume name: \\?\Volume{eafe6ddd-72e5-11e2-a860-806e6f6e6963}\
Volume path: D:\
Volume name: \\?\Volume{eafe6dde-72e5-11e2-a860-806e6f6e6963}\
Volume path: E:\
Volume name: \\?\Volume{eafe6ddf-72e5-11e2-a860-806e6f6e6963}\
C:\Documents and Settings\admin>vssadmin list writers
vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
(C) Copyright 2001 Microsoft Corp.
Writer name: 'System Writer'
Writer Id: {e8132975-6f93-4464-a53e-1050253ae220}
Writer Instance Id: {40cd8c16-adf6-4d38-8d97-2b3ca3d5b1cd}
State: [5] Waiting for completion
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'COM+ REGDB Writer'
Writer Id: {542da469-d3e1-473c-9f4f-7847f01fc64f}
Writer Instance Id: {a8acc36b-c28a-416e-b01f-71b4eb047e2f}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'MSDEWriter'
Writer Id: {f8544ac1-0611-4fa5-b04b-f7ee00b03277}
Writer Instance Id: {9ef8779a-1666-4ec7-a4ff-ac1d0db47c90}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'Registry Writer'
Writer Id: {afbab4a2-367d-4d15-a586-71dbb18f8485}
Writer Instance Id: {b678cb0a-fbc3-4ebf-aa50-f8db3d530d1b}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'WMI Writer'
Writer Id: {a6ad56c2-b509-4e6c-bb19-49d8f43532f0}
Writer Instance Id: {8718785f-cfc8-4743-9a93-ae6a06beddbd}
State: [5] Waiting for completion
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'Event Log Writer'
Writer Id: {eee8c692-67ed-4250-8d86-390603070d00}
Writer Instance Id: {c46fac5a-9384-4eca-a14a-27e4c3b6acd0}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
***********************************************************************************************
Here is the windows volume config
It seems that there are no errors on the windows side... But to be sure I maybe need to delete every single Shadow copy and set a new default size for theses ... I will let you know about the results.
If you guys see anything helpful that may missed here don't hesitate to answer this thread.
Thanks for your help.
timespace
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October 28th, 2015 06:00
Hi All,
I get through the whole investigation process regarding the VSS Problem detected.
Here are the Microsoft elements I found and proceed with :
VSS Debug Log activation
https://support.microsoft.com/fr-fr/kb/887013
KB VSS updated environment for Microsoft Server 2003 R2
https://support.microsoft.com/fr-fr/kb/940349
But it did not solved the problem, it seems that all the issue is linked to VSS service slow response...
First symptom is the answer of the command :
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c:\>vssadmin list writers
C:\Documents and Settings\admin>vssadmin list writers
vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
(C) Copyright 2001 Microsoft Corp.
Waiting for responses.
These may be delayed if a shadow copy is being prepared.
Writer name: 'System Writer'
Writer Id: {e8132975-6f93-4464-a53e-1050253ae220}
Writer Instance Id: {b65dacbc-b050-47e4-9e25-7ef8899c9a68}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'Registry Writer'
Writer Id: {afbab4a2-367d-4d15-a586-71dbb18f8485}
Writer Instance Id: {248603f1-25aa-4434-b846-934421c7391d}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'Event Log Writer'
Writer Id: {eee8c692-67ed-4250-8d86-390603070d00}
Writer Instance Id: {9b9df5bb-815f-4c1d-ae49-a6419a7ffaa0}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'COM+ REGDB Writer'
Writer Id: {542da469-d3e1-473c-9f4f-7847f01fc64f}
Writer Instance Id: {97fb2ec3-b4cd-480f-ad74-d955379586fd}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'MSDEWriter'
Writer Id: {f8544ac1-0611-4fa5-b04b-f7ee00b03277}
Writer Instance Id: {9f966c52-9324-471c-9427-c37eb76f59e2}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
Writer name: 'WMI Writer'
Writer Id: {a6ad56c2-b509-4e6c-bb19-49d8f43532f0}
Writer Instance Id: {9223bde9-957b-4cb9-9d40-363d4284ef65}
State: [1] Stable
Last error: No error
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I have now around 20mn delay getting this answer to that command...
When I get back to the AVAMAR 6.1 client logs I found theses entries repeated multiple time :
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(...)
2015-10-27 23:05:38 avtar Info <10967>: Found System Provider GUID. Will be using the System Provider GUID to perform backup
2015-10-27 23:05:51 avtar Info <8776>: Creating snapshot set...
2015-10-27 23:05:51 avtar Info <8780>: Creating the shadow (DoSnapshotSet) ...
2015-10-27 23:20:20 avtar Info <8688>: Status 2015-10-27 23:20:20, 0 bytes (0 bytes, 0.00% new) 60MB 0% CPU
2015-10-27 23:27:08 avtar Info <6076>: VSS waiting one minute for snapshot resources to become available
(...)
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And then
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(...)
2015-10-28 02:48:43 avtar Info <10662>: Unable to create volume snapshot; backup proceeding with original (non-snapshot) volume content. Some file content may not be backed up.
(...)
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I did extensively searched on the Microsoft TECHNET something that may workaround that problem without success
Questions :
Is that a know problem referenced in the Avamar knowledge base ?
Do you have a way to pass parameters to the AVAMAR 6.1 Client in order to make it wait longer once trying to request the microsoft VSS service for a snapshot ?
Many thanks for your answers