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March 4th, 2009 19:00

File level Backup

Looking for opinion on bets way to do file level backup and store the date of site.

Thinking of attaching iscsi lun to the backup server. Using arcserve backup all the data to that lun. replicate the lun to dr site.

is this correct approach or there is a better way of doing it to insure data backup and it is off site.

we are doing approximately 2 TB a week
Looking for some compression so I can keep more than 2 month of data or even 3 month.

Please suggest the best way to accomplish it with Celerra 5.6

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March 4th, 2009 20:00

i don't think you want to present your iSCSI lun to another server unless you have some kind of clustering going on. I am thinking that you could promote a snapshot of your iSCSI LUN , mount it on the backup server and spin it to tape. When the backup job is done, un-mount it and de-mote the snapshot. Rinse and repeat :) . Keep in mind though that when you run a backup against your iSCSI LUN snapshot ..you are essentially running it against the primary iSCSI LUN as snapshot is nothing but a bunch of pointers to your primary LUN. So you might see slightly degraded performance but it would be the same if you ran it against the primary iSCSI LUN anyway. The benefit of running it from a snapshot is that you have a point in time copy of your data, no open files ..plus you offload the burden on the CPU/Network/memory to your backup server.

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March 5th, 2009 10:00

I am currently using the old but still good IBM Fiber san.
Backing up all the data locally to the fiber attached drives.
the thing is that it is a local backup solution but does not take my backups off site.
I thought it would be possible to achieve this with Celerra but maybe not.
Replication will not work because to much data and we need to keep around 2 month so there must b compression of some sort.
Also what is the best way to backup VMs. If VM has crashed instead of bulding a new from template and would like to restore the entire VM guest and than restore the latest file level backup to it

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March 5th, 2009 10:00

you have to explore solutions that support VCB backup, not sure but i believe arcserv supports it.

So are you vaulting tapes off site ?

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March 5th, 2009 13:00

might work. do you know if it does block level backup?

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March 5th, 2009 13:00

have you considered MozyEnterprise ? Great dedupe :)

http://www.emc.com/products/detail/software/mozyenterprise.htm

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March 5th, 2009 13:00

we are taking the tapes off site oursalves. Not a best solution ;)

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March 5th, 2009 13:00

yep, block level incremental.

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March 6th, 2009 05:00

There are lots of ways of doing this

The "best way" really depends on your environment, requirement, budget,...

I'm sure your local EMC Technology Consultant can give good advice for your setup

Some of the options:

Avamar - great dedupe/cmpression for lots of days to keep, doesnt need a backup software, talks to Celerra using NDMP

another Celerra on the DR site, replicate the data and keep checkpoints there

backup software with B2D that uses local storage or storage that gets replicated to the DR site (like Arcserve with B2D option that uses CIFS/NFS storage)

EMC Disk library - with dedupe/compression - can be placed on the DR site or replicated there

local backup to tape or disk and clone the tapes to the DR site

local backup that writes directly to disk/tape/disk library that is located on the DR site

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March 6th, 2009 06:00

I'm not sure what types Arcserve supports as B2D targets - others like Backup Exec, Netbackup, Networker, ... do support CIFS (UNC Path) or NFS volumes as well

see the White Paper Section for Celerra on Powerlink like

http://powerlink.emc.com/km/live1/en_US/Offering_Technical/White_Paper/H2905-celerra-lan-backup-wp.pdf

http://powerlink.emc.com/km/live1/en_US/Offering_Technical/White_Paper/H2839.1-emc-celerra-lan-backup-disk-symantec-backup-exec-wp.pdf

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