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January 20th, 2004 21:00
Beware of Dell RAM
I just found out that any upgrade in memory made at the purchase of a Dell computer in considered OEM memory and will NOT have any lifetime warranty from Samsung/other vender. That means that everyone should only take the free memory that comes with the computer and purchase extra memory elsewhere. Purchasing it with the unit only gives you the amount of warranty that comes with your computer (ie, 1,2,3 or 4 yrs) whereas memory purchase elsewhere will usually carry a LIFETIME warranty. I have talked with a number or departments (including Samsung) and Dell will not replace my memory since my computer is out of warranty, and the upgraded memory i purchased with the unit, was installed at the time of purchase. so
BEWARE.Dell does not let you know this when they ask if you want to up the RAM.
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talmy
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January 20th, 2004 22:00
All of the contents of the system carry the system warranty via Dell and not the manufacturers' warranties. So additional memory indeed caries a 1,2 or 3 year warranty. However if you purchase Dell branded memory separate from the system it caries a lifetime warranty. Personally, I recommend buying minimum memory and then buying additional memory from Crucial.com which is less expensive and also has a lifetime warranty.
NVRambo
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January 20th, 2004 22:00
I don't know that this is such a huge issue. Many people order their dell systems with minimum RAM in an attempt to save money anyway. The RAM they do buy with the system is warrantied along with the rest of the system, and I think purchasing additional RAM from dell is still only covered by the system warranty - not sure.
In any event and under the old 'bathtub curve' failure theory, RAM does not often go bad, and when it does it will usually be early in ownership or late, very late, in the system's lifetime.
It's good for any buyer to be aware of warranty conditions and costs though.
Francis Nguyen
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January 20th, 2004 23:00
It's probably cheaper to buy the PC without RAM and order from CRUCIAL. Dell may install two 256MB modules if you ordered 512MB.
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talmy
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January 21st, 2004 01:00
Unless the description states otherwise (and this is typically with notebook systems), Dell systems which are ordered with less than the maximum memory always have free memory slots for expansion. So if you order 512 MB on a 4600 or 8300 it will have two sticks of 256MB each and two empty slots. A 2400 will have a single stick of 512MB and a single free slot. (The 4600 and 8300 take memory in pairs for double the throughput.)
AllynKC
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January 22nd, 2004 03:00
Fcurrie,
You should probably start this question in its own thread, rather than adding to an existing discussion.
In answer to your questions, it depends on the ram and your pc specifications. When you repost the message, be sure to mention the front side bus (FSB) speed of your computer, the type of ram (PC3200? PC2700?) and the CL timing (CL=3, CL=2.5, or CL=2).
Fcurrie
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January 22nd, 2004 03:00
Hi, I would like to know if I will have difficulty putting in 512 megs of ram into my Dell 4600, the manufacturer of the ram is Kingston. I recieved the computer with 256 megs of ram, also could you tell me how the increase in ram will benefit me .
Thanks in advance, F. Currie
talmy
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January 22nd, 2004 14:00
Also, remember to buy as a pair of 256MB devices. They will insert easily into the two available slots in your system.
The benefit solely depends on how you use your computer. If you leave applications open all the time or have lots of background programs you will get major speedups. If you only browse the web or write Word documents, you probably won't see any effect at all. The best bet is after using your system for a while (without turning it off) bring up the Windows Task Manager (easiest done with the three-fingered Control-Shift-Escape) Go to the performance tab and look at the peak memory usage. If it is approaching 256k or exceeding it, then you certainly need the extra memory.
Fcurrie
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January 24th, 2004 16:00
Talmy:
Thanks for your reply, not really being computer literate, I appreciate answers to my questions.
I have a Dell 4600 P4 @266Ghs, 333mgh
I bought the 512 megs of ram......on the box it says pc2700 CL2.5 184 pin
I gather that you cannot put this much memory into one slot, is that the reason you say to put two 256 in the open slots ? I did what you said re:go to the performance tab & the # was at 233mb with nothing open on the computer.
I would like to hear back from you as I have yet to open this 512 ram, & it can be returned.
Thanks, F Currie
talmy
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January 24th, 2004 18:00
Fcurrie
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January 24th, 2004 19:00