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Turn your XPS 8700 into a solid mid-range gaming rig.
Okay, so I am more accustomed picking out all the parts and putting my rig together from scratch. That was the plan this time as well. But, I saw a really good sale on the XPS 8700 and found an additional coupon for $50 off. I am also a Dell Advantage member, so I received free two day shipping. I ordered my PC on a Monday and had it on my doorstep Thursday. That is pretty dang fast.
I purchased the XPS 8700 with the Core i7 4770 processor (not planning to overclock, so that is fine), 8 gb RAM, 1tb hdd and the GTX 645 or 635...don't really remember the video card, as it was junk and I was planning to upgrade anyway. Oh, it also came with Windows 8. Total cost was somewhere around $680, out the door.
At the same time, I went ahead and ordered a new Corsair 600w PSU and a MSI GTX 760 video card (2gb / OC version). The card is the Twin Frozr Gaming edition. It only requires up to 500w PSU, but I wanted just a bit more...just in case. I really wouldn't go any more than 600w, unless you are getting a more powerful video card than the GTX 760. Beware, the MSI GTX 760 was a tight fit, but it went in with no modifications. Check your video card dimensions, because the XPS 8700 case is a tight fit.
Okay, so Thursday night gets here and my new XPS 8700 is here...and so are my new PSU and Video Card. First thing I did was power on the pc before making any upgrades...wanted to be sure it worked beforehand. All good....no issues. Turned the pc off and began the process of upgrading things.
First, I disconnected all power cables and then removed the PSU. This was relatively simple. It was a bit different than removing a PSU from a custom rig, but it was fine. Just take your time with everything. Some mistakes cannot be easily fixed. Anyway, PSU was removed with no issue.
Second, I installed the new Corsair PSU. No problem getting it in and mounted. Again, a bit of a tight fit, but if you take your time, it goes in fine.
Next, I installed the new MSI GTX 760 video card. Like I said before, it is a tight fit. You have to go into the case at a bit of an angle, but it will go in without any problems. One more note, you will need to route the SATA cables under the card, as the cables are just long enough to reach the DVD drive and hdd.
Last, I connected all the power cables from the PSU to each applicable connection (CPU, Motherboard, DVD, HDD and Video Card). ** Make sure you get a PSU that has the necessary connections for the newer video cards. Mine required a 6 pin and an 8 pin. I would say to just do your homework before you have everything sitting in front of you. When you ready to assemble and anxious to get it up and running, that is a bad time to realize you're missing something.
So, at this point, I had everything in place. All cables routed nice and neat. I closed the case and connected my monitor, keyboard and mouse. I press the power button......beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Instead of seeing it boot, I got a series of beeps. UGH!! Not what I was expecting. Luckily, I have no shortage of spare pc's in the house, so I went to Google and started searching. After an hour of research, I was pretty sure I had the answer.
These newer pc's have a UEFI motherboard. In other words, they use a UEFI rather than the older, more familiar bios I am used to. And even newer is a feature called Secure Boot. I am not going to go into all the specifics on what Secure Boot is, but what I found was that a lot of people have had issues when they have upgraded their video cards with one of the newer, more advanced cards. Some of the newer cards do not have their own bios that is compatible with this Secure Boot feature.
So, to get past this issue, first I had to pull the video card out and put the stock card back in. I was able to boot the system once I did this. I hit F2 to enter the bios (yes, I will continue to call it bios). Go to the Boot menu. Disable Secure Boot. Save and exit. Power down the pc and repeat the process of putting the new video card in.
Once I disabled Secure Boot in the bios, I was able to put in the new video card and boot with no problem. All is good.
Now to the next challenge. No offense to Dell, but I do not like all the that comes on a pc when you get it preconfigured from a reseller. And, I just so happened to have an MSDN version of Windows 8.1, which was not even out for resale yet. I set the pc to boot from DVD (again in the bios), put the DVD in and restarted the pc. The Windows 8.1 setup started up, from the DVD. Setup was fast and simple....not going into details here. Windows 8.1 setup was complete and I was ready.
Everything was going fine until I noticed that, when I switch to Desktop view in 8.1, there is a watermark in the bottom right-hand corner that reads something like "Secure Boot isn't configured properly....." Nothing catastrophic, but not something I want to see all the time.
Okay, did some more research....this time on the MSI website, in their forums. Turns out, there are well-respected developers on their forum that are taking ongoing requests for Video BIOS (vbios) updates for UEFI. I do not know all the technical details, but basically this means they will give you an updated vbios that enables your video card for UEFI and Secure Boot. You just provide your current vbios, serial number and model. I did this and had a new vbios 2 days later. To do this, you need a utility called nvflash. NOTE - this can be a dangerous process if you don't know what you are doing. You can brick your video card. However, there are plenty of resources online that give instruction. It was very simple to do. So, I flashed the video card with the new rom and voila, I had a UEFI compliant video card. Rebooted the pc, went into the bios, re-enabled Secure Boot and started up Windows 8.1. No more messages.
One more thing...I had 16 gigabytes of DDR3 1600 memory in another pc. I swapped it for the 8 gigabytes that came with the XPS 8700. So here are my final specs, or at least the important specs....Core i7 4770 / 16gb DDR3 / GTX 760.
First thing I did was to install Origin and download the Battlefield 4 Beta. Outside their normal Beta bugs and whatnot, the game ran great on High settings. No lag whatsoever. Unfortunately, the Beta ended two days after I got all this up and running. So I went ahead and downloaded Battlefield 3 and Call of Duty Black Ops II, which I already owned. Both are running great on High settings.
Total cost was about $900 and change. Not too bad for a decent gaming rig. I could have gone the route of picking all the parts and building from scratch, but the cost was going to be several hundred dollars more. Oh yeah, as a Dell Advantage member, I will also get 5% reward for this purchase, so figure another $30 or so in Dell eGift Card. Might put that toward a new game or something.
Hope this helps anyone that may be considering doing this. If you can get the XPS 8700 on a good sale, with the Core i7, I would not hesitate to do it again. Thanks!


Miker625
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November 1st, 2013 16:00
I had some Corsair Vengeance that I pulled out of another PC.
marcopono
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November 1st, 2013 16:00
Yeah I just picked up am XPS 8700 plain myself. Thinking of doing same thing with upgrades. What brand ram did you end up with? I'll keep those fixes in mind.
Dragonthunder
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November 8th, 2013 22:00
I am ordering AMD R9 290 and upgraded power supply.
Excellent Post. Thank you
marcopono
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November 10th, 2013 04:00
Mike, the reason I asked which memory you went with is because I was concerned whether the 8700 plain cheap bios would recognize 1600 speed on new ram. I took a chance and ordered G.Skill Ripjaws X as the first part of upgrade. Sure enough it's only recognized as 1333 ram with no way that I can see to manually set it. Did your Corsair vengeance get recognized properly or did you have to do something? Installing the new memory made my Creative sound card not recognized. I'm pretty sure that it's something minor. Of course I haven't gotten to the 7850 video card or the ssd installations yet. Any pointers would be helpful. There doesn't seem to be much written about XPS 8700 yet. I was happy to come across your post.
rrcomputer
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December 2nd, 2013 18:00
Excellent post, thank you!
marcopono
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December 8th, 2013 05:00
Upgraded my video card to HD 7850. Had to get the MSI Bios Flash. Went well. The only drawback I can see to the plain version of the XPS 8700 is the cheap bios won't let you pick your own ram speed thus limiting you to how it detects it. After my research I've discovered that only CL11 memory is picked up as 1600mhz. excellent post especially the video card flashing part.
DenB09
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January 19th, 2014 19:00
Guys, I'm facing a similar dilemma. I'm trying to upgrade RAM to 32GB in my XPS 8700 tower. I bought expensive Corsair Vengeance RAM but when I plugged it into the system board it ran only @ DDR3-1330 speeds.
So whoever successfully upgraded their RAM in their XPS 8700, can you post a link to the RAM that worked @ 1600 MHz?
@marcopono: Your finding of only CL11 memory being compatible with 1600 MHz speeds is quite interesting. Can you please give more details on it?
fenoywb
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January 19th, 2014 20:00
This memory worked fine at 1600 MHz however Newegg seems to be out of it at this time. Try Crucial.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239291
fenoywb
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January 20th, 2014 05:00
I was hesitant about updating the BIOS for fear of possibly bricking the system. You've convinced me to leave well enough along. Thanks.
marcopono
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January 20th, 2014 05:00
Well I too bought some nice ram. I had to return it as G.Skill tech told me that only CL11 would work with this XPS 8700. I am assuming it is because of the limitations of the bios. By the time I discovered the secret (CL11), I had already bought the exact same ram as was installed (Nanya) off of Ebay (which worked fine of course) or I might have just bought a CL11 ram of my choice from OldEgg. Now there is an upgrade to the bios from Dell that might change all that for the better? I don't know because when I foolishly clicked on their: UPDATE BIOS THOUGH WINDOWS button I bricked my bios chip so my pc is dead at present.
So, in summery G.Skill told me CL11 is the trick.
Hope this helps...
marcopono
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January 20th, 2014 06:00
Yep curiosity killed the pc. I knew better but thought maybe Dell had it together. I've upgraded bios before by flashing but never through Windows. Now I'm waiting to get my pc title transferred from where i bought it so Dell will talk to me about the problem. Too bad as it was running great. Good luck to you.
DenB09
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January 26th, 2014 15:00
Yes, I can confirm latency, or CL-11 is the trick to have XPS 8700 run your RAM @ 1660 Mhz. I wish it said this somewhere in the Dell manual.
I ended up buying x4 of the "Kingston ValueRAM 8 GB 1600MHz DDR3 (PC3-12800) Non-ECC CL11 DIMM Motherboard Memory (KVR16N11/8)" sticks from here, that worked @ 1660 Mhz:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089JIDLC/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Amazon had a better deal.
So thank you everyone who helped in this!
myrz3
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January 28th, 2014 14:00
Great Info here! I did a similar project 4 years ago with a XPS 435t/9000! before that I built a couple computers and went the dell route to make it easier and not a big cost difference! I play Battlefield 4 and i'm have been slowly upgrading stuff like video to AMD 7950, Power supply to a 750 watt because the card required at least 500 watts! But, i'm still using and playing the game with no major problems! Hell, the processor is only a 2.66mhz and my memory a 6 gb ddr3! I AMD Raptr software would scan the game and my PC hardware and run the game on some of the higher settings, but choose to not use that and run on the lower settings as Ii'm seeing CPU spikes using the in game perfoverlay graph! Also, I Upgraded the hdd drive to WD black 7200 and notice that I join mulitplayer server way later than most! If I play Operation Locker my team is capping B by the time I'm even in the game. Therefore, i'm was looking another PC to have a faster SSD hard drive and more! I bought a copy of windows 8 pro that upgrade to 8.1. However I notice it runs pretty slow on my PC, so this is another reason I want to upgrade! One other upgrade was a Dell U2412M IPS monitor. it's on sale now for like $289. I paid more! it's only a 60mhz, but I read good reviews about the IPS monitors image quality! The image quality I got from the video card and monitor was unbelievable! I have that monitor next to my old dell 24 and the colors are night and day! however, I wish I could afford a faster MHZ or the new Gsync (vs. vsync). ASUS has one pretty cheap on newegg right now for cheap!
When its time to update to a new PC there are so many components that its tough to research all the users like/dislikes and if there's a compatibility problem you have to do even more research! Plus the cost can get out of hand! Since I only play BF4 i'm thinking of going this route that all you chose to upgrade a XPS! For me this will be my second one and I could use some of the components I used to upgrade this one with. I can use the video card, power supply, window pro, and the monitor! So, i'm thinking why not?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time and posting all your experiences! It is extremely helpful for some of us gamers that prefer to take an easier and maybe cheaper route by upgrading a XPS
! If anyone else has feedback PLEASE POST! ....and for the rest of lets keep this subject alive!
Kangaro_boy
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January 30th, 2014 06:00
myrz3
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January 30th, 2014 23:00
Sorry it took so long for me to get back and answer your question!
Actually I forgot what PSU it is! I want to say a corsair!
I'm going to crack the case tomorrow and report back here!