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frogalex

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March 18th, 2005 01:00

X800Mobility Vs 6800Go Ultra test is out ~

 
Both 12piplines with GDDR3 256M VideoMemory
 
...............................................................3Dmark2003.......3Dmark2005 .....DoomIII...@1024 HQ 8XAF
X800 Mobility  459/459MHZ   W/P4 3.2G    9621                    4298          65.7FPS
6800 Go Ultra 450/550MHZ   W/PM 2.0G   12533                  5233          100.2FPS

jankerson

2.8K Posts

March 21st, 2005 01:00

You still haven't answered how they put a PCI express card on an AGP board yet.

As I have been saying all along the I855 chipset is AGP only, not PCI express.

So the whole basis of the article is wrong to begin with.

jankerson

2.8K Posts

March 21st, 2005 01:00

The Mobility Radeon 9800  is an X800 core GPU with eight pixel and four vertex pipes

Yes it is a different GPU. When they start cutting Pipelines that isn't a X800 anymore.

 

 

jankerson

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March 21st, 2005 01:00

I think Tom's worded it wrong, as it wasn't an X800, it had to have been a 9800 to start with to go on that board in the first place.

So we are right back to the beginning where I said the test was lopsided in favor of the NVidia card.

Comparing a 6800 Go Ultra to a 9800, they aren't even close.

Now the X800 on the PCI Express bus would be faster than the 9800 on the AGP bus and closer to the 6800 Go Ultra.

Remember what I said about the I855 chipset being only AGP.

Message Edited by jankerson on 03-20-2005 10:22 PM

frogalex

35 Posts

March 21st, 2005 01:00

did i ever mention the X800 M test was made on a 855 chipset?
 
and on the other hand whether it's PCIE or AGP is not important at all
 
even if 6800 Go ultra is AGP i will still buy it
 
PCIE and AGP in real game is less than 2 FPS diff only
 
and that is not the point u are arguing
 
 dunt avoid ur own point , now u insist 9800M is not based on X800 tech
 
and u dunt believe tomshardware's authority ,Okie
 
let me Prove it to u
 
check out all the site below they all mentioned 9800M is based on the X800 tech
 
An 8-Pipe X800 For Your Notebook

MOBILITY RADEON 9800 - The New Face of Mobile Gaming

•_Based on ATI RADEON X800 technology

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_mobility_radeon_9800_review/

 
 
The Mobility Radeon 9800  is an X800 core GPU with eight pixel and four vertex pipes
 
 
 

jankerson

2.8K Posts

March 21st, 2005 01:00


@frogalex wrote:
did i ever mention the X800 M test was made on a 855 chipset?
 
and on the other hand whether it's PCIE or AGP is not important at all
 
even if 6800 Go ultra is AGP i will still buy it
 
PCIE and AGP in real game is less than 2 FPS diff only
 
and that is not the point u are arguing
 
 dunt avoid ur own point , now u insist 9800M is not based on X800 tech
 
and u dunt believe tomshardware's authority ,Okie
 
let me Prove it to u
 
check out all the site below they all mentioned 9800M is based on the X800 tech
 
An 8-Pipe X800 For Your Notebook

MOBILITY RADEON 9800 - The New Face of Mobile Gaming

•_Based on ATI RADEON X800 technology

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_mobility_radeon_9800_review/

 
 
The Mobility Radeon 9800  is an X800 core GPU with eight pixel and four vertex pipes
 
 
 


No I looked at the Spec of the notebooks and the Laptop With the P4 had the I855 Chipset. :smileywink:
 
Oh but it is important because the X800 is PCI express only and a different GPU than the 9800 AGP.

frogalex

35 Posts

March 21st, 2005 01:00

dunt change the point
they are based on the same x800  R420 tech
not as u said it's based on the 9800 R350 tech
and nomatter how many piplines they cut
it is still a X800 AGP ~
even desktop the 8,12,16 pipline X800 are all called X800
becaused they are all based on the same R420 Tech not the R350 tech
they are not totally diff VPUs as u said  ~

jankerson

2.8K Posts

March 21st, 2005 02:00

Quote:
 
even if 6800 Go ultra is AGP i will still buy it
 
PCIE and AGP in real game is less than 2 FPS diff only
 
Quote:
 
 
So would I.
 
Yes on boards with the same overall specs, same FBS, Memory, and CPU, there is no difference.
 
But:
 
It's not the Bus that makes the Difference in the 2 it's the increased Bandwith of the features built into the chipset for the machine with the Pent M.

jankerson

2.8K Posts

March 21st, 2005 02:00


@frogalex wrote:

"Ah no the 9800 is not based on the X800 either, they are 2 totally different GPU's, HUGE difference in the 2 GPU's."



And I still say that, as there is a huge difference and I am still not buying what Tom's said by the way.

frogalex

35 Posts

March 21st, 2005 02:00

u said  "there is no way that the 9800 could be based on the X800"

U dunt trust tomshardware， okey ， then how about all the websits below?

not only tomshardware,

they all said 9800 is based on the X800 tech

seems they are all wrong only u r right isn't it? ha ha

:smileyvery-happy:

 
check out all the site links below they all mentioned 9800 is based on the X800 tech
 
 
An 8-Pipe X800 For Your Notebook

MOBILITY RADEON 9800 - The New Face of Mobile Gaming

•_Based on ATI RADEON X800 technology

 

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_mobility_radeon_9800_review/

The Mobility Radeon 9800 is a the result of a collaborative effort between ATi's Mobile and Desktop graphics teams.  As such, it shares all of the features of its desktop counterpart, the X800,  it has 8-Pixel pipelines and 4-Vertex pipes (Desktop X800's have 12 or 16-pixel pipelines).  Other than that though, there are virtually no differences between the X800 and Mobility Radeon 9800 architectures.  
 
 
The Mobility Radeon 9800  is an X800 core GPU with eight pixel and four vertex pipes
 
 

frogalex

35 Posts

March 21st, 2005 02:00

no matter it's X800 SE, XT,Pro XL or XTPE
even it's 1 pipline only it's still an X800 it's not based on R350 Tech,
u won't say a handicapped American is not an American
even he's handicapped he is still not a Japanese
 
u dunt believe in tomshardware and u said they are wrong
and the web sites all proved
9800Mobility is X800 Agp ver
 
who's wrong?  please dunt change the topic
 
u said:

"Ah no the 9800 is not based on the X800 either, they are 2 totally different GPU's, HUGE difference in the 2 GPU's."

"Also as an added note the X800 came out along time after the 9800 did, so there is no way that the 9800 could be based on the X800."

it's very clear ~

u said  "there is no way that the 9800 could be based on the X800"

 

 
check out all the site below they all mentioned 9800M is based on the X800 tech
 
An 8-Pipe X800 For Your Notebook

MOBILITY RADEON 9800 - The New Face of Mobile Gaming

•_Based on ATI RADEON X800 technology

 

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_mobility_radeon_9800_review/

The Mobility Radeon 9800 is a the result of a collaborative effort between ATi's Mobile and Desktop graphics teams.  As such, it shares all of the features of its desktop counterpart, the X800,  it has 8-Pixel pipelines and 4-Vertex pipes (Desktop X800's have 12 or 16-pixel pipelines).  Other than that though, there are virtually no differences between the X800 and Mobility Radeon 9800 architectures.  
 
 
The Mobility Radeon 9800  is an X800 core GPU with eight pixel and four vertex pipes
 
 
 

Message Edited by frogalex on 03-20-2005 10:10 PM

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