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June 17th, 2006 19:00

Dell 2407 6 bit panel ?

Is Dell 2407 6 bit panel compared to Dell 2405 8 bit panel ?

According to this review, 2407 is 6 bit panel
http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=3041

If true than why Dell 2407 has on Tech Specs that it supports 16.7 million colors?
Wouldn't that be misleading advertising ?
Even if virtual 8 bits is being used (6 bit + dithering), than it should say 16.2 million colors.

This question was asked already before and ignored.
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_monitor&message.id=58877&query.id=22713#M58877

DELL-ChrisM please, can you reply to this, THANK YOU

EDITED
Benny, who did the 2407 review on TrustedReviews and originally reported that it has 6bit panel now corrected his review.
Blaming he was "incorrectly informed by the Dell Product Manger that it was a 6-bit panel"
He also said " I have now checked the panel. It is indeed a Samsung LTM240M2"

Here is a link for Samsung LTM240M2 Product Specification, Page 2 - DriverType - True 8bit
ftp://www.distec.de/Displays/Samsung/LTM240M2-L02_SA-01-092_Rev0_17.02.2005.pdf

Here is the link for Benny explanation post at TrustedReviews Forum, Page 2
http://www.trustedreviews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=948&page=2

Message Edited by Heinz68 on 06-19-200610:41 AM

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June 18th, 2006 01:00


@slava55 wrote:

Everything is misleading about dell. They just rushed with a release of peace of sh*t before other companies do. One day dell will choke because of their greediness and lie.




Misleading advertising is punishable by law at least in Canada it is and Dell Canada has the same specs for 2407FPW , so at least we should wait for explanation before we jump to conclusion.

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June 18th, 2006 07:00

"Even if virtual 8 bits is being used (6 bit + dithering), than it should say 16.2 million colors."

"Virtual" 8-bit doesn't by definition mean 16.2 colors. It's just that the older methods of doing this could only represent 16.2 million. Newer methods can represent 16.7 colors, but that doesn't mean they are 'true' 8 bit. Unfortunately, LCD manufacturers aren't always jumping to let you know which panel is which.

According to Samsung, the LTM240M2 panel is 'true 8bit'. This is the panel used on the 2407.

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June 18th, 2006 16:00

WOW, did somebody from misleading dell has deleted my reply? Well, I did not expect a better from a company like that... SHAME ON DELL!

Thanks Heinz68  that you still have it in your reply :smileywink:

The deal is not only with panel (it might be 8 bit) but in general DELL is misleading and false advertising their products in order to gain as much profit as it can. HDCP bogus,  no 1:1 or 4:3 for 1600x1200 resolution, flickering images, dots throughout the image, horizontal flickering lines, "award winning customer support"... unless it's a worst customer support ever award, etc., etc.

2407 should be called medium low end instead of super high end.

 

Message Edited by slava55 on 06-18-200603:35 PM

 

We need more TRUE online reviews about this faulty rushed release of 2407 instead of those that Dell has paid for.

Message Edited by slava55 on 06-18-200603:37 PM

Message Edited by slava55 on 06-18-200603:37 PM

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June 19th, 2006 00:00

Relax! Apparently this is not the case. Someone on hardforum posted this:

"The 2407FPW uses the Samsung LTM240M2 panel. According to the data sheet found here:

ftp://www.distec.de/Displays/Samsun..._17.02.2005.pdf

On page 2:

'Driver Type (Data Bits): True 8bit

Same goes for LTM240M1, which is the panel used on the 2405FPW."

source: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1064124&page=5

June 19th, 2006 02:00

Just because the panel is 8bit does not mean that it's driven by 8 bit electronics. This has been the case with many monitors in the past. I've got a 2405 and a 2407 (a good one on the way i hope) and will make a side by side evaluation. I can already say that the 2405's stand is MUCH better. Image quality will be the deciding factor for me though.

Mike

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June 19th, 2006 03:00

I would like to know how those two monitors compare. But what is wrong with the 2407's stand? IMO the new one works just fine and looks much nicer.

June 19th, 2006 12:00

May look nicer but it's SHORTER! When rotated portrait the monitor almost touches the stand...in comparison my 2405 stand is 3-4 inchs taller. Also it's not nearly as stable, the screen will shake if i type too hard!

Mike

P.S. My desk is SOLID cherry and rock stable so don't blame my desk.

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June 19th, 2006 14:00

Benny, who did the 2407 review on TrustedReviews and originally reported that it has 6bit panel now corrected his review.
Blaming he was "incorrectly informed by the Dell Product Manger that it was a 6-bit panel"
He also said " I have now checked the panel. It is indeed a Samsung LTM240M2"

Here is a link for Samsung LTM240M2 Product Specification, Page 2 - DriverType - True 8bit
ftp://www.distec.de/Displays/Samsung/LTM240M2-L02_SA-01-092_Rev0_17.02.2005.pdf

Here is the link for Benny explanation post at TrustedReviews Forum, Page 2
http://www.trustedreviews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=948&page=2

9 Posts

June 20th, 2006 01:00

I can not believe in it. Look, posts are getting deleted every day by these lie lovers from dell.

Heinz68, where is your second post went?

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June 21st, 2006 19:00

That would be really bad, though I don't think that's how it work. I'm not exactly sure when a 6-bit signal is sent over DVI, but I imagine it might be when you have your graphics card set to 16-bit color.

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June 21st, 2006 19:00

I wonder if they drive it in 6bit through DVI??

 

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June 21st, 2006 20:00

slava55,

* Read this

150 Posts

June 21st, 2006 21:00

ok, i dont think it is 6bit in DVI anymore, but still weird the vertical banding (horiz IS now entirely fixed acrtualy)

 

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June 26th, 2006 22:00

Reply to JMWarren_2003.

Please, don't take my comment/question too seriously... (don't mean to be a smart ***)

You said in your previous post that the 2407 monitor isn't very sturdy due to the new base design.
You also asked us not to blame your desk because it's solid cherry, therefore...rock stable.

So how can the kinetic forces apply to your keyboard affect the monitor stability? Think about it, it's just physics! (Unless you keyboard touches your monitor?)

 

 





 

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Message Edited by Gpinner on 06-26-200606:55 PM

June 27th, 2006 00:00

Regardless of my desk a 2407 shakes while typing quickly a 2405 does not.  The 2407 stand is FAR worse.
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