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NetWorker 7.6 SP2 / W2k8 system drives C:\ and D:\ aren't used as DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ save set
Hello,
Any idea why the NetWorker (7.6.SP2 client vers.) is trying to use drive F:\ from file server (W2K8 R2 installed / replaced W2K3)
for Disaster Recovery Save Set OSSR_F and not drives C:\ and D:\ ???
On drive F:\ are only user data, pdf, word and excel documents, and other files used for daily business, but no system or any other windows files are saved on this drive, all totally around 2 TB.
I have stopped system (OS) file backup after the NetWorker backed up 50 GB OSSR_F
Save Set Definition for OS backup:
C:\
D:\
VSS SYSTEM FILESET:\
DISASTER_RECOVERY:\
VSS OTHER:\
VSS SYSTEM BOOT:\
VSS SYSTEM SERVICES:\
VSS USER DATA:\
Thanks.
ble1
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September 29th, 2011 17:00
I got a bit interested into this subject because I do not use 762, but once I flip my client to it next year and start using it (or to whatever version will be ok then.. most likely 7.6.3.x). One thing which has crossed my mind while rereading this was why should this saveset be browsable in the first place? If it is used for solely DR, there is no need to browse it. When doing DR restore there is no cherry picking - you are restoring everything - sort of image restore. In that case, it is almost like saveset restore except that I do bare metal restore here. The bottom line is - I do not need these to be browsable, but recoverable only. So, I went to make a test now on my laptop (bad idea, I know).
I should say that I have only C drive OK, once I started the backup with DISASTER RECOVERY saveset only I got disk A created (good that I do not have floppy disk) which was labeled as system partition, but by the end of backup was gone. mminfo shows:
So, from above I conclude:
- OSSR savesets are recoverable - period. Yes, they do have browse set in future (I used default policy as I just installed NW so it is classic 1m browse and 1y retention), but it looks as if this is overrided and for reasons I explained before I do not see much issue there
- DISASTER_RECOVERY saveset is browsable though - I assume this is some sort of index?
OK, let's check what is nsrinfo (bare in mind this is the only backup so whatever it is inside index can only come from above backup):
OK, so we have 2 xml files.... let's restore those and see what is inside
Argh, I hate this. I guess I could try ssid restore, but I'm afraid that might still trigger restore of the whole machine and I use this laptop
So, perhaps you can check nsr\tmp area while saveset is running and make copy of those xml files (under assumtion they are updated real time which most likely may not be the case) and see what is inside.
Note: Perhaps this is all explained in docs, but I admit I didn't read it (though I should).
Edit: Stop! This is even better than I thought. I do not restore anything as those two files are still in nsr\tmp
OK., let's check them out...
I did some wraping above as in real life this is all one line. OK, so this is generic info about my disk C (represented by OSSR_C) and cutom created system disk (represented by OSSR_A).
Let's check next file - OSSR_BCDoc.xml (again wraped manually for some sort of visibility):
Ugly, isn't it. Long live XML. Nevertheless, with just C drive I won't be able to figure out why is something critical and something not (and it is question if you can even draw such conclusion from xml file in the first place).
Perhaps you wish to check your xml files and perhaps you will see more (I have to go to sleep ). Bottom line is that it appears that OSSR savesets are recoverable and not browsable so all this attempts to make them browsable were wrong approach. From what I see, XML does not contain list of files (makes sense), but it may contain some paths within OSSR savesets and then you may see why OSSR_F in your case is used. Good luck.
AllanW1
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July 27th, 2011 05:00
Hi vucko- moving this over to the support forum for additional help.
Thx.
Allan
ble1
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July 29th, 2011 15:00
It probably finds data needed on those drives (they might be hidden). This info is taken from registry I believe. Just leave it to do its job and then you can get an idea of what is inside by looking with nsradmin.
vucko
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August 1st, 2011 03:00
Many thanks for your reply Hrvoje,
Unfortunately the current size of saved data on drive F:\ is around 1 TB, but if it is required, I will run a full backup of drive F:
Sorry, but how can I check what is inside of recovery save set with nsradmin?
Thanks & Rgds..
ble1
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August 8th, 2011 04:00
Sorry, did a typo... not nsradmin, but nsrinfo.
vucko
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September 29th, 2011 01:00
I am still facing with same problem, unfortunately no help from nsrinfo…
but it is very interesting to get a few different save sets entries all assigned to one SSID….
me@my_bkp_srv>mminfo -q ssid=1547175309 -r name,sumsize,level,ssflags,nsavetime
name size lvl ssflags save time
OSSR_F 244 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 119 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 55 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 76 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 41 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 43 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 143 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 117 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 47 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 56 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 161 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 177 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 59 GB full vrF 1312294197
OSSR_F 89 GB full vrF 1312294197
me@my_bkp_srv>nsrinfo -t 1312294197 my_fsr_01
scanning client `my_fsr_01' for savetime 1312294197(Tue 02 Aug 2011 03:09:57 PM BST) from the backup namespace
0 objects found
me@my_bkp_srv>
me@my_bkp_srv>
Is there any other way to check what is saved under save set# 1547175309?
Our backup of windows system files and drive C:\ is actually scheduled to run over day, and normally it took only a few minute per server, but due this issue OSSR_F the backup of this server runs almost 24 hours…
masonb
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September 29th, 2011 02:00
Vucko,
The saveset flags show these are recoverable savesets therefore the data regarding the individual file detail is no longer with the Client File Index.
Using mminfo -q ssid= -r name,sumsize,level,ssflags,nsavetime,volume,sumflags
I think this will show you that you have a saveset which spans volumes and the sumflags will tell you which has header, middle and tails sections of the data of the saveset.
If you need the detail of the file data the only way to achieve this is to scan in the saveset starting with the header - and then NetWorker should prompt you for the tapes in order. This must be done in one operation (no breaks and in the right order to be successful). There is also some work on the saveset for the browse time which will be required to ensure the index entries remain and are not deleted by NetWorker housekeeping. Search Powerlink for recovering savesets passed browse and you should get a solution which details what you have to do.
Regards,
Bill Mason
36115_carloscor
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September 29th, 2011 02:00
Hi Vucko,
I would say that you should change the saveset configuration.
Please note that DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ saveset is intended for BMR.
Could you please try to run only the saveset DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ and let us know the results?
Thank you.
Carlos.
vucko
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September 29th, 2011 06:00
Ok, here is what I’ve done to make ssid#1547175309 browsable, but only this save set cannot be changed to browsable…?!?
1. get based info's about save set 1547175309
mminfo -q ssid=1547175309 -r name,sumsize,volume,level,nsavetime,ssbrowse,ssretent,volume,sumflags,ssflags
name size volume lvl save time browse retent volume fl ssflags
OSSR_F 244 GB 011391 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 011391 mr vrF
OSSR_F 119 GB 012389 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 012389 mr vrF
OSSR_F 55 GB 012483 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 012483 mr vrF
OSSR_F 76 GB 012797 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 012797 mr vrF
OSSR_F 41 GB 013166 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013166 mr vrF
OSSR_F 43 GB 013184 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013184 hr vrF
OSSR_F 143 GB 013186 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013186 mr vrF
OSSR_F 117 GB 013244 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013244 mr vrF
OSSR_F 47 GB 013334 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013334 mr vrF
OSSR_F 56 GB 013338 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013338 mr vrF
OSSR_F 161 GB 013359 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013359 mr vrF
OSSR_F 177 GB 013631 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013631 mr vrF
OSSR_F 59 GB 013656 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013656 tr vrF
OSSR_F 89 GB 013774 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013774 mr vrF
2. Retention policy for this server is set on decade and the retent time was actually properly set to 08/02/2021
and save set was marked as recovable, but since the first run of nsrck -L7 for this client,
was successful but without any changes for this ssid, I did...:
nsrmm -S 1547175309/1312294285 -e 12/12/22
nsrmm -S 1547175309/1312294285 -o notrecyclable
Mark save set copy 1547175309/1312294285 as not recyclable? yes
Save set `1547175309' cloneid `1312294285' is already not eligible
nsrmm -S 1547175309 -w 12/12/12
Cannot exceed the browse time of a recoverable save set 1547175309
Ok, now the new try with nsrck -L7
3.
mminfo -avot -N index:my_fsr_01
012831 my_bkp_srv 08/07/11 11:22:55 AM 7097 MB 373188479 cr full index:my_fsr_01
nsrck -L7 -t "08/07/11 11:22:55" my_fsr_01
nsrck: checking index for 'my_fsr_01'
9343:nsrck: The file index for client 'my_fsr_01' will be recovered.Requesting 1 recover session(s) from server.
Recover completion time: Thu 29 Sep 2011 02:38:57 PM BST
nsrck: /var/nsr/index/my_fsr_01 contains 100787509 records occupying 15 GB
nsrck: Completed checking 1 client(s)
4.
Still no changes for save set 1547175309
mminfo -q ssid=1547175309 -r name,sumsize,volume,level,nsavetime,ssbrowse,ssretent,volume,sumflags,ssflags
name size volume lvl save time browse retent volume fl ssflags
OSSR_F 244 GB 011391 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 011391 mr vrF
OSSR_F 119 GB 012389 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 012389 mr vrF
OSSR_F 55 GB 012483 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 012483 mr vrF
OSSR_F 76 GB 012797 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 012797 mr vrF
OSSR_F 41 GB 013166 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013166 mr vrF
OSSR_F 43 GB 013184 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013184 hr vrF
OSSR_F 143 GB 013186 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013186 mr vrF
OSSR_F 117 GB 013244 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013244 mr vrF
OSSR_F 47 GB 013334 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013334 mr vrF
OSSR_F 56 GB 013338 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013338 mr vrF
OSSR_F 161 GB 013359 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013359 mr vrF
OSSR_F 177 GB 013631 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013631 mr vrF
OSSR_F 59 GB 013656 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013656 tr vrF
OSSR_F 89 GB 013774 full 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 013774 mr vrF
5.
All other save sets, that were saved during the same full backup of my_fsr_01 are now browsaable.
For example here are the save sets from tape 013184
mminfo -q volume=013184 -r ssid,client,name,nsavetime,ssbrowse,ssretent,ssflags,sumflags | grep my_fsr_01
3543635474 my_fsr_01 K:\xxxxxxxxx 1312265746 10/28/11 09/30/21 vF tb
3442972187 my_fsr_01 K:\xxxxxxxxxxx s 1312265755 10/28/11 09/30/21 vF mb
3342308910 my_fsr_01 N:\xxxxx\xxxxxxxxxx 1312265774 10/28/11 09/30/21 vF mb
1647838513 my_fsr_01 VSS OTHER:\ 1312294193 10/05/11 09/07/21 vF cb
1614284081 my_fsr_01 VSS USER DATA:\ 1312294195 10/05/11 09/07/21 vF cb
1664615729 my_fsr_01 VSS SYSTEM SERVICES:\ 1312294192 10/05/11 09/07/21 vF cb
1631061297 my_fsr_01 VSS SYSTEM BOOT:\ 1312294194 10/05/11 09/07/21 vF cb
1597506866 my_fsr_01 VSS SYSTEM FILESET:\ 1312294196 10/27/11 09/29/21 vF cb
1580729706 my_fsr_01 C:\ 1312294249 10/05/11 09/07/21 vF cb
1563952502 my_fsr_01 D:\ 1312294260 10/05/11 09/07/21 vF cb
1547175309 my_fsr_01 OSSR_F 1312294197 08/30/11 12/12/22 vrF hr
vucko
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September 29th, 2011 07:00
Hello Carlos,
here is aborted output of running backup for DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ only...
I've aborted it as I saw that the backup of OSSR_F was started, (1.4 TB of data)
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ savegrp: suppressed 89 lines of output.
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ << "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Network\Downloader\\" >>
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ +skip: *
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ << "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\a0929fb7c5c83baabfaeabba559a9f32\" >>
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ skip: BIT5AE.tmp
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ << "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\a799f3878beb133cda8bcd101db25f06\" >>
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ skip: BIT6B8.tmp
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ << "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\8135a0dba986235be8d2d4844d05f456\" >>
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ skip: BIT4A33.tmp
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ 77775:save: Processing completed for disaster recover backup.
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ 74209:save: Quit signal received.
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ 83452:save: Handling an abort while processing Windows disaster recovery backup.
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ aborted
#######################################
Completion report of last full backup of system files, C and D drives of my_fsr_01
* my_fsr_01 :Probe savefs my_fsr_01 : succeeded.
my_fsr_01 : VSS SYSTEM FILESET:\ level=full, 9869 MB 00:23:35 104641 files
my_fsr_01 : C:\ level=full, 3158 MB 00:07:46 10835 files
my_fsr_01 : D:\ level=full, 2531 MB 00:05:36 373 files
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ savegrp: suppressed 91 lines of output.
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ << "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\a0929fb7c5c83baabfaeabba559a9f32\" >>
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ skip: BIT5AE.tmp
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ << "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\a799f3878beb133cda8bcd101db25f06\" >>
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ skip: BIT6B8.tmp
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ << "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\8135a0dba986235be8d2d4844d05f456\" >>
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ skip: BIT4A33.tmp
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ 77775:save: Processing completed for disaster recover backup.
my_fsr_01 : OSSR_F level=full, 1434 GB 39:04:53 2226034 files
my_fsr_01 : OSSR_C level=full, 13 GB 39:26:36 102060 files
* my_fsr_01 :DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ 80889:save: Created disaster recover logical object.
my_fsr_01 : DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ level=full, 41 KB 39:26:44 4 files
my_fsr_01 : VSS OTHER:\ level=full, 1 KB 00:00:14 1 file
* my_fsr_01 :VSS SYSTEM BOOT:\ VSS SYSTEM BOOT: VSS Writer: ASR Writer is not supported, ignoring it.
my_fsr_01 : VSS SYSTEM BOOT:\ level=full, 97 MB 00:00:56 145 files
my_fsr_01 : VSS SYSTEM SERVICES:\ level=full, 61 MB 00:00:46 43 files
my_fsr_01 : VSS USER DATA:\ level=full, 1 KB 00:00:16 1 file
V ne-bkp-lgto01.teg.teda: index:my_fsr_01 level=full, 6997 MB 01:05:38 854 files
ble1
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September 29th, 2011 13:00
Errr... do you use perhaps nsrauth on server?
vucko
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October 6th, 2011 02:00
Thanks Hrvoje for this great troubleshoot,
the xml files in nsr/tmp was the real good hint, since the information that I could catch from those files were much as enough for us.
In the OSSR_Info.xml file all drives are listed with some “system own information”, but only drives C.\ and F.\ are specified as a “Critical Volume"
OSSR_BCDoc.xml” provides much more info’s, like:….