NetWorker Fast Start and Data Domain

I don't know which NW FS version you have but i assume the latest (7.6) as it seems to be a new installation.

What you stated looks weird as there is this clear licensing statement in the FS 7.6 Release Notes:

Features provided with base enablers
The base enablers are packaged with:
◆ One server on either Windows or Linux
◆ Up to 20 clients of any OS or combination
◆ Any combination of up to five of the following application modules:
• NetWorker Module for Oracle Server
• NetWorker Module for SQL Server
• NetWorker Module for Exchange Server
• NetWorker Module for Microsoft Applications
◆ A single 40 slot Jukebox with a maximum of 16 devices
◆ 10 TB capacity to backup to disk (DBO) or EDL

Note: The EDL 10 TB license that comes with NetWorker Fast Start works successfully with EDL 1500 and 3000 libraries by using DL 1.1.3 firmware. Ensure that the DL 1.1.3 firmware is installed for correct operation

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- If you want to use the DD as a CIFS share, you need a 'standard' Disk Backup Option (DBO) license which uses the "Advanced File Device" type

- If you want to use the DD with DDboost, you must configure the new "Data Domain" device type

BTW - i never heard of "NetWorker Express" and could not find it in the internet. It could be an OEM version, though.

nothing has been purchased yet

Hrvoje,

if Networker is writing to a CIFS share on Data Domain, do i even need an autochanger license ?

Thanks

Take a look at page 104

NetWorker Fast Start 7.6 Service Pack 1 Installation Guide

Is DBO license part of the Network Fast Start Bundle ? This is what the reseller quoted:

Netwoker Fast Start Bundle, License for 10 Windows clients

Networker Fast Start with Autochanger for Windows

Networker Fast Start MS Quickstart

So i am still confused about the Data Domain capacities that will be supported by this version. Is it only 5TB ?

Thank you for your help

No, you don't.  With DD you either use CIFS/NFS/Boost or VTL... you can't mix it to my best knowledge.  You need only autochanger license if you plan to use one.

I'm not sure how things are these days, but in early days of faststart there was an announcement which I still have in my inbox which stated:

NetWorker Fast Start includes the following with a single enabler: ·         A NetWorker Server Network Edition—Linux and Windows ·         20 NetWorker clients ·         Up to five application instances for any combination of Microsoft SQL Server, Exchange or Oracle ·         Support up to 10TB capacity for backup to Disk (DBO) or EMC Disk Library (EDL) ·         A 40-slot autochanger license is also provided as a separate enabler

Now, it looks as if this has changed.  Nevertheless, it sounds as autochanger licenses comes included as part of fast start license (even it is given as separate license).

I also didn't work with FS licensing (as that is the issue here), but my understanding is that basic FS license out of box does not support device with capacity as the one you wish to present.  Not sure how NW does it today, but in the past check was based on space used by disk device and not how much has been allocated.  Nevertheless, this capacity licenses can be expanded so if your customer had a combo deal for both software and hardware then offer should include add-on license to address missing capacity as well.

"So i am still confused about the Data Domain capacities that will be supported by this version. Is it only 5TB ?"

We just cannot answer you question because we don't know the license.

If you already installed the software, run "nsrlic -nvv -c license_code". Mybe the outcome will tell you more.

i opened a ticket with support, let's see what they say.

dynamox wrote: you can use CIFS/NFS/VTL and boost all at the same time, i have a DD880 that i use with TSM  so i know that's supported.

That's interesting as I believe on EMC World someone told me you can't mix those.  Not sure if that might be some sort of limitation which arises from boost (or perhaps it was just referenced to DD Archived...?).  I will need to dig a bit on that one to understand where did I get this idea in the first place...  Thnx!

you can use CIFS/NFS/VTL and boost all at the same time, i have a DD880 that i use with TSM  so i know that's supported.

If i have ~8TB of usable space, according to the paragraph in the install guide, i have to purchase fast start with 20 clients so that it will support up capacity of my DD, unless EMC can upgrade my capacity license by itself without needing to buy more client licenses.

Not sure about Fast Start licensing, but it seems like you will be short.

I know with my DD670 (~8TB) and regular NW I have 5 enablers. One for the DD itself, and 4 for capacity: 5TB+1TB+1TB+1TB.

The DD licensing in NW is for raw disk on the DD, not pre-comp usage. I think Unexpected is incorrect.

The licence in NW is for the capacity that you see on the Data Domain. So if you have 8TB usable (without taking the dedup into account) you need to buy 3 1TB licences extra. Compare to one 10TB or an additional 5TB licence, perhaps it is cheaper then three 1TB licences.

unexpected wrote: Compare to one 10TB or an additional 5TB licence, perhaps it is cheaper then three 1TB licences.

It's super cheap if they sell you an expensive DD package w/ Boost that they claim will work with existing NW...and they forget to tell you that it requires enablers which are not included.

thanks guys, now i just need to figure out if i can buy incremental Fast Start licenses for Data Domain.

I was indeed, it is the other way round. Mixed things up, sorry. Set it right now.