We are also in the mids of evaluating Networker 8 and NMM 2.4 with EMC. So far these are the findings:
- For clients with DB (SQL2005,2008,2012) needs to be backed up with NMM (File system and database). To be able to DR recovery purpose, you need to create 3 separate groups for a single client.
Filesystem for NMM group - backup command as you use above
Backup command: nsrsnap_vss_save.exe
App Information:
NSR_SNAP_TYPE=VSS
NSR_IGNORE_MISSING_SYSTEM_FILES=YES
Group to backup DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ only - normal backup command
Normal MSSQL group.
- NMM Admin Guide, Page 77: In the users attribute, add the following values for the NMM client hosts
User=administrator, host=NMM_client_host
User=system, host=NMM_client_host
- and make sure the NMM group configuration is set to these (Thanks to Carlos from the other thread)
Inactivity time out: This has to be set to "0" (unlimited) to prevent time outs in the group when the snapshot is being taken. Big snapshots can take long time to be created.
Savegrp parallelism: set to "0" as the parallelism should be set at client level for NMM backups.
Client retries: has to be set to "0" so that there are not more than one call to VSS, otherwise backup will fail as snapshot is already in progress.
Ah ok, now I understand. I know in the past if you had NMM you had to use it for fs backup since it replaced client software. I believe this has been changed in 2.4 (at least I hope so) so there is no need to use NMM for file system backup part (only SQL and that one will most likely use SQL module which is now integrated with NMM so you can use VDI instead of VSS - unless you do not plan to protect SQL database with transaction logs).
I thought DISASTER_RECOVERY saveset was enhanced in NW8 in a way that one pass backup was needed and further incrementals could go against it. In such case, you would need two instead of 3 groups.
You are right about the improvement of DISASTER_RECOVERY saveset in NW 8 however NMM still needs to separate VSS based backups and DISASTER_RECOVERY (ASR) based backups.
We still need to create 3 groups as stated by Iman18.
Ah I see... the code change in NW8 is not what is found in NMM. Well, if they could just make it package just like NMDA so that you can still use core NW, that would be great. Few weeks ago person from EMC claimed that was made, but I guess that was not correct statement (or at least that person who told me that was under wrong impression).
2 Group to backup DISASTER_RECOVERY:\ and critical drives and what backup command i have to use here ?
3 Normal MSSQL group.Can you please let me know these group and client property details also how you configured my next test will be this SQL DB 2012 Read only db test
Can someone help me out on this as i am new to NW and trying to do POC .
Rzmn
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Hi,
We are also in the mids of evaluating Networker 8 and NMM 2.4 with EMC. So far these are the findings:
- For clients with DB (SQL2005,2008,2012) needs to be backed up with NMM (File system and database). To be able to DR recovery purpose, you need to create 3 separate groups for a single client.
Backup command: nsrsnap_vss_save.exe
App Information:
NSR_SNAP_TYPE=VSS
NSR_IGNORE_MISSING_SYSTEM_FILES=YES
- NMM Admin Guide, Page 77: In the users attribute, add the following values for the NMM client hosts
User=administrator, host=NMM_client_host
User=system, host=NMM_client_host
- and make sure the NMM group configuration is set to these (Thanks to Carlos from the other thread)
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Inactivity time out: This has to be set to "0" (unlimited) to prevent time outs in the group when the snapshot is being taken. Big snapshots can take long time to be created.
Savegrp parallelism: set to "0" as the parallelism should be set at client level for NMM backups.
Client retries: has to be set to "0" so that there are not more than one call to VSS, otherwise backup will fail as snapshot is already in progress.
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Hope thats help.