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December 15th, 2011 19:00

Problems with built-in wifi on older Inspiron 8200

(If I could afford a new laptop I would buy one) With that out of the way....

I had been using a Belkin PCM/CIA wifi card which had been workiing fine. Recently, however it was powering itself off randomly. Assuming it has outlived its service life I wanted to put the built-in card for the laptop to take less space from the side of the unit (sticks out a ways, especially when also using a USB 2.0 adapter, as I was with a RaLink wi-fi adapter). I have been trying to get the Intel 2200BG card to work. I do notice that in BIOS the mini-PCI listing shows "unknown" for a card rather than stating a wifi card. With the proper driver I see the card in device manager as working fine, in fact when using my iPhone as a personal hotspot, the card sees the connection eventually, but when trying to connect (using my WEP key of the iPhone) I see it "acquiring network address" a few times then fails. The RaLink card works fine with the iPhone (but as I say I wanted to cut down on side space by having a built-in card). In addition, I see the Ethernet port of the laptop blinking even if I disable it in BIOS, I don't think that's right either. It does not blink if the Intel card is not present. Is the Intel card bad, or is the motherboard of the laptop going bad? I am pretty well versed in configuring devices, but have spent hours trying to make this work with no success. Right now it's on the RaLink and working OK. I'll probably need to return the Intel and bit the bullet as far as width of the laptop with a USB 2 adapter and RaLink attached. Any thoughts on this old thing are appreciated.

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December 16th, 2011 02:00

Rivergoat,

 

I had an issue with another member and a Belkin. It could not determine the difference between WPA-PSK(TKIP) Security (Personal and WPA-AES, so the adapter would not connect.

 

Router have a firewall? If yes, did you try turning it off?

 

Places to look to see if your Connection is enabled

 

 

Rick

 

 

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December 16th, 2011 07:00

The issue with me isn't the Belkin, it has worked flawlessly until having recent issue of it now powering on at boot, or randomly powering off. In fact, I am on the Belkin card right now. The RaLink USB card also has worked. There's Windows Firewall in place, but it hasn't affected either of those cards. The Intel 2200BG is the one that does not connect. I did a little checkiig and found that the Ethernet port on the side of the Inspiron will blink to indicate presence of the wireless card (although in BIOS I'm curious why the mini-PCI card is only listed as "unknown," although the status is "enabled."). There's no power switch on the Intel card (there is a "wireless on/off" setting in the properties of the card, though if you select off, then on, it will say you would need to be sure the switch of the adapter is turned on to use the software switch setting.

The strangeness is that I have had instances where the Intel does see the connection (remember, it's my iPhone using the personal hotspot feature, which, by the way, is my only method of connectivity at home as there is no high speed service available). When I go to connect, using the preset WEP key, all it does it try to acquire an IP (I see the wireless icon in the system tray with a rotating yellow dot during this, but as it fails the icon goes to red X, then tries a couple of more times then gives up). Once the Intel gives up, I no longer see the iPhone's wifi, and all I get is "no wireless networks are in range." Going back to the RaLink at this point may also be problematic to see the network again; stopping and starting the iPhone service may bring it back up, but the point is that once it's back as a valid network, connecting is no problem; and that's with the same Windows Firewall settings in place.

Is it possible/likely that the Intel is simply too old a technology, and the iPhone, acting like a router I would think, simply is not compatible with the card? No, I haven't tried the Intel in a coffee house/wi-fi cafe, I have spent much too much time trying to make something otherwise simple to work. I did read that certain Cisco routers did not allow this Intel card to connect, and when the users went to older routers they had success. The card is no longer supported by Intel, although current drivers are available (the Dell driver did not make the card work at all, leaving it with a Code 10, the device could not start error). The last Intel driver is a version 9.xxxx, the card is seen in Device Manager as functional, and of course there are instances where it actually sees the iPhone, it just never connects.

And as I type this, I see my Belkin card has again powered itself off, the original cause for this pointless exercise. I may just look for another RaLink USB (they are quite inexpensive). It just ends up sticking out rather far, but if it works.....

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December 16th, 2011 07:00

PS....there's also no known F key on the Inspiron 8200 to turn on or off wireless, and there's no wireless switch on the laptop. It's an old beast, and wi-fi seems to be an after thought in its design.

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December 16th, 2011 13:00

Rivergoat,

 

Is your SSID broadcasted? I use WPA-PSK(TKIP) Security(Personal) in my home. I use channel 11 and have not had a device not connect. WEP could have problems connecting.

 

Code 10 is a driver issue.

 

Wireless adapter is enabled in the bios. I have to get out my old system this weekend, when I have a few extra minutes and will repond in the places to look to see if the adapter is enabled. Do you have Intel ProSet wireless installed? How can I disable wireless configuration services and enable the Windows XP Wireless Zero Configuration services

 

Try running WinSock XP Fix

 

 

Rick

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December 17th, 2011 17:00

I gave up on the Intel card and sent it back as I've not had problems with either the Belkin nor RaLink with the same laptop configuration; the only BIOS enabling for the internal Intel seems to be recognizing the mini-PCI card, and yes, it was listed as "enabled". The Code 10 issue on the Belkin I recently had I do not quite believe a normal driver issue. I uninstalled the Belkin drivers completely, then did a re-install. That card came up yesterday with no issue, and I thought perhaps that was the fix. This morning just after the laptop booted and got on line I noticed a "server not found" error on a web page, then looked and sure enough the Belkin card was powered off again. I pulled it out, reinserted it, and it ran fine for the rest of my 2 hour session. It strikes me more that the Belkin card itself is going bad. Using a USB 2.0 adapter into the PCMCIA slot, the same slot the Belkin was plugged into, and using the RaLink into that, it works.

Today I picked up another RaLink card and will use that as a primary; I connect from my desktop at home via it no problem, and have had no issues with connection, nor staying powered on via the laptop.

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