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February 19th, 2022 21:00
Optiplex 9020 no video after modifying BIOS settings
I have an Optiplex 9020. It was giving me bad motherboard diagnostic codes, so I replaced the motherboard (with the same model as was already in there). On first new start it gave me a boot error, which happens on my PC if the BIOS gets cleared. I went into the BIOS, changed the boot from legacy to UEFI, and it successfully loaded windows. Then I restarted and entered the BIOS again to see if anything else needed changing. I don’t recall what I might have changed at this point (maybe to/from raid?) but now I have no video. PC starts with no beeps or diagnostic lights, but no video at all. Not even the dell circle at startup. I’ve tried resetting the bios , unplugging my gpu, pulling RAM, nothing works. Very rarely I can get to the “set your clock” screen in the BIOS after clearing CMOS, but then the screen goes black again as soon as I try to exit the BIOS after setting the time.
my setup is to connect hdmi to an asus gpu and to connect keyboard and mouse using a wireless dongle. I don’t have easy access to anything else to connect.
Any thoughts? Have I tripped some Dell booby trap?


cgjeff
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February 20th, 2022 19:00
Well, I found an old vga monitor, reset CMOS again, and still black screen. So I swapped back in my old MB. It worked.
Maybe I bricked my “new” MB, maybe It was already bad. Hard to know. Anyway the old MB is now working without issue. I did notice a slightly bent pin in the CPU housing and bent it back into place. Maybe that or reseating all the MB connections fixed it. Hopefully so.
Thanks @JOcean @for the troubleshooting advice and thanks @bradthetechnut @for the BIOS boot settings, which are what I used for this working boot.
JOcean
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February 20th, 2022 06:00
Instead of resetting the BIOS, did you replace the CMOS battery with newly purchased battery? If you do leave the battery out of the system for at least 15 minutes before installing the new one. Have you pulled the GPU and tried connecting to the IGPU? Could you have changed a setting in the BIOS which disabled the discrete video card?
cgjeff
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February 20th, 2022 07:00
Thanks for your help. I’ve tried both removing the battery and resetting CMOS using the jumper. Most recently I just left the battery out overnight with the PC unplugged, put in a fresh battery, then started it up. Still a black screen.
My only direct HDMI connection is with the GPU. I’ve tried removing the GPU and connecting to my HDMI monitor using the DP connection on the IGPU and a DP-HDMI adapter, but that also didn’t work. I don’t have much faith in that adapter though.
I don’t think I changed any video settings in the BIOS; I was mostly messing with boot settings. But even if I did, shouldn’t clearing CMOS have reset it to defaults?
JOcean
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February 20th, 2022 08:00
Reset to default should have cleared everything but BIOS can do some weird things at times. Try disconnecting everything from the PSU except the MB. Also try running diagnostics (tap F12 immediately at boot) though at this point you still may have no display. Did you try updating the BIOS at any time? Also try running with one RAM module at a time to check their reliability.
Remove the RAM and see if you get a beep code for missing RAM. If with only the MB connected to the PSU you get no video then that means the problem is with the MB or CPU. Also if you do not trust the adapter then pick up one that is more reliable. If you have a friend with a DP out system try the adapter on their system. But I am starting to suspect a MB issue.
Also try removing all cards from the PCIe slots including the GPU and try to boot then.
cgjeff
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February 20th, 2022 11:00
Oh, and I tried diagnostics F12, with no visible effect (still black screen). I haven’t attempted to update the BIOS on this new-to-me MB either, although I don’t know what might have been done to it before I bought it.
cgjeff
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February 20th, 2022 11:00
I tried removing all the RAM and get the diagnostic beeps 1-3-2 and amber flashing power button (3 flashes) indicating no memory. I normally have 4 installed RAM modules installed, each 8GB, and have worked for over a year in this PC. Those beeps and flashes go back to normal when I reinstall them. I’ll leave just one RAM module in for now (in slot 1) while troubleshooting.
I just removed a PCI express card and unplugged all peripherals from the PSU (CPU fan and main fan still connected and powered from MB). Still black screen.
I’m going to try to track down a VGA monitor and PS2 keyboard just to be as directly connected as possible and rule those HDMI and wireless dongle connections out as an issue.
A bad MB would be unfortunate since I just bought this one (used of course off eBay) to replace my original bad MB. This one isn’t throwing the bad MB diagnostic codes my old was was, but maybe that doesn’t count for much.
Anything I can do that might confirm a bad MB or CPU (or connection between the two)? I guess I can swap my old, bad MB back in (as it still fires up sometimes, different issues), but I’d rather not!
bradthetechnut
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February 20th, 2022 14:00
Hi @cgjeff,
Granted at some point you can get to the BIOS screen:
Just a reminder to press F2 immediately at startup and not wait for Dell logo to access BIOS. BIOS isn't something to "mess" with. If a BIOS update goes wrong, it can brick the MB.
There is that chance BIOS or the Boot Menu can't be accessed while you have an HDMI monitor/TV plugged into eGPU. Chances are BIOS doesn't have the driver for it. So it's a good idea you had using a VGA monitor.
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February 20th, 2022 20:00
Glad you got it working. Now that it is, if not already, the system should be able to have Secure Boot on and Legacy Option ROMs off.* More secure with Secure Boot on. *You might've seen the prompt already - Legacy Option ROMs have to be off for Secure Boot to be on.
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February 20th, 2022 21:00
1. Good work.
2. Yeah, people love to sell their broken-stuff on eBay, and then pretend they didn't know. It's lame, but that's the world we live-in now-days.
There are places that you can buy refurbished motherboards (usually just "working pulls") that are guaranteed to work ( at least a 30-day DoA policy).
And sometimes, it's better to retire the old broken machine and just get another clean/off-lease one. Don't get too hung-up on one or the other. But in your case, you did good.
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February 21st, 2022 05:00
Glad to see you got it up and running and glad to see we could all contribute helpful advice! And that one bent pin can make all the difference, good job spotting and repairing it. And I agree that eBay MBs can be a real hit and miss proposition.