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3020 with Win7 and 8.1 disc upgrade?
Hi. Just purchased a NOS 3020 with Win7Pro installed - want 8.1 that came on a disc. How do I do this upgrade of the OS?
I'm at the desktop. I've temporarily dismissed the Dell Upgrade Service box, there's 1-2Gb of Windows 7 updates waiting to be installed.
Should I just start with Win7 comfortable in the knowledge I can update easily in the future? Is it best or easier to do it now? Is it better to update Win7 first? What is involved in upgrading with the included disc - how is it done?
Thanks a bunch.
beamermt79
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August 17th, 2018 13:00
averageguy2018
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August 17th, 2018 15:00
Hi. I have the disc - it came with the system. Just need to know how to use it. Thank you.
Da_Vinman
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August 17th, 2018 16:00
When you're ready, from Windows 7, just insert the supplied Win 8 disc into the CD/DVD-ROM and follow the prompts.
Now it's up to you when you want to upgrade, immediately, update Win 7, or find you like it and never upgrade at all. Personally, I think Win 10 > Win 7, but Win 7 > Win 8/8.1
Da_Vinman
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August 17th, 2018 17:00
Isn't that what we're all talking about here or is there another thread I'm not familiar with.
He has Windows 7, the system included an upgrade disk for Windows 8 (which obviously would be the same 32/64-bit edition, right?) and afterwards he would get the free digital upgrade to 8.1.
speedstep
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August 17th, 2018 17:00
There is no 7 to 8.1 upgrade only reinstall and only with a new key.
There are no 32 bit to 64 bit upgrades for ANY version of windows only clean install.
You can go from 7 to 8.0 via upgrade but only 32 to 32 or 64 to 64.
The upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 is free.
So you need either the HOME or PRO 8.0 upgrade or you need to buy a new copy of windows and
clean install.
averageguy2018
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August 17th, 2018 18:00
Hi Guys and thank you for taking the time to review my post.
The computer is new (old stock) and came with an included 8.1 disc from Dell. Everything should be compatible and with appropriate license.
I suspect Da_Vinman is correct - insert disc and follow prompts. Easy enough.
speedstep
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August 18th, 2018 01:00
averageguy2018
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August 19th, 2018 10:00
My computer may have come licensed and prepared to use either OS but shipped with Windows 7 Pro. It would seem the included sealed Dell disc with Windows 8.1 is legit.
After looking at these links, please offer me any suggestions or insight. Thank you.
https://www.dell.com/community/Desktops-General/Upgrading-Dell-Optiplex-3020-from-Win-7-to-Win-8-1/m-p/4548374#M979793
https://www.dell.com/community/Windows-General/How-to-install-included-Windows-8-1-on-OptiPlex-3020/m-p/4717383#M369226
https://www.dell.com/community/Windows-8/Windows-8-1-on-Dell-OptiPlex-3020/m-p/4526016#M8582
https://www.dell.com/community/Windows-8/OS-Pre-installed-on-Optiplex-9020-and-Optiplex-3020/m-p/4467935#M8001
nyc10036
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August 19th, 2018 11:00
Find your PC's COA and write down the product key.
There are software that can help you obtain the product key.
You can still "upgrade" to Windows 10 from Windows 7 for free.
I did this recently with a used E6400 that has a Windows 7 Home Premium COA but no hard drive.
I put in a brand new hard drive.
I inserted a USB flash drive created with Microsoft's Media Creation Tool.
Installed Windows 10 Home.
Activated Windows 10 Home with the Windows 7 Home Premium key.
This is what I would do if I were you.
averageguy2018
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August 19th, 2018 12:00
Used Win10 when it was first launched for a few months and liked it. Tried it again over the last few months and hated it.
I'd like to use Win8.1 with my new computer if I can be sure of how this is done. Dell update software suggests I need to update my bios - not sure if I should do this, if it is necessary - or if I should do it before or after a Win8.1 upgrade.
Hoping someone sees this who has been through this. Thank you.
Da_Vinman
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August 19th, 2018 21:00
Wow, you seem to have some issues reading, as you yourself commented that it is possible to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and then use the free digital 8.1 upgrade - I know this is possible, as I personally did it on multiple systems.
Please read my reply again (seriously, READ it, don't just rage-type more CAPS-lock **bleep**):
"He has Windows 7, the system included an upgrade disk for Windows 8 (which obviously would be the same 32/64-bit edition, right?) and afterwards he would get the free digital upgrade to 8.1."
Exactly where did I state there was a "Windows 8.1 upgrade disk" that exists on planet Earth. I clearly outlined the same process that Dell outlines, that I have performed multiple times, and that you yourself outlined earlier.
averageguy2018
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August 20th, 2018 02:00
Hey Guys - thanks for trying to help me.
I'm holding onto a Dell disc that reads:
Operating System
Already installed on your computer
Windows 8.1 Recovery Media for Windows 8.1 Products 64-bit
The links I included in a previous post talk about systems that were shipped with 8.1 with downgrade rights to Windows 7 Pro. The units were shipped with Windows 7 appearing on initial boot-up.
See this link: https://www.dell.com/community/Windows-General/How-to-install-included-Windows-8-1-on-OptiPlex-3020/m-p/4717383#M369226
I'm not clear if it's possible both OS are on here right now and it's just a question of figuring out how to access 8.1 or if I need to "re-install" it from the disc.
I used the Dell support feature / scan and it informed me there was a new version of the BIOS for my computer - so I have the additional question of whether I should update this (or not, or before or after any 8.1 "re-install).
Will Dell tech support answer some questions on this unit (circa 2015) without a fee?
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August 20th, 2018 04:00
1. "you seem to have some issues reading" No I can read Just fine.
2. "same 32/64-bit edition, right?" Wrong. There is no such thing. Does not exist. Windows XP / VISTA / 7 and 8.0 and 8.1 come with 2 different media for 32 bit or 64 bit.
(8.1 disks are Clean Install only. There are not and never have been 8.1 UPGRADE disks.
3 "He has Windows 7" Wrong. He has windows 10 installed.
speedstep
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August 20th, 2018 04:00
Windows 8.1 Recovery Media for Windows 8.1 Products 64-bit (This is not an upgrade Disk)
You can only do clean installs. There is an issue however that Windows 7 or 8 or 8.1 cannot remove a windows 10 partition and reinstall clean. You can easily reinstall on a machine with a new blank hard drive.
You will have to use DISKPART or DBAN or some other utility to nuke the drive.
That means you have to either get a new hard drive or backup your data files to somewhere else.
Da_Vinman
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August 20th, 2018 06:00
1) No you cannot, as I and the OP have clearly stated he was upgrading from Win 7 to Win 8 using the disc, and then using the FREE DIGITAL UPGRADE to Win 8.1. It's like you're hooked to a coffee machine and copy-n-pasting your same comments over and over, hoping someone will believe them.
2) Do you even know what "same" means? If you have a 32-bit version of Win 7 and you want to upgrade to Win 8, you need the SAME version (32-bit) of Win 8, just as if you were on a 64-bit version of Win 7, you would need the SAME version (64-bit) of Win 8. Same = Similar, Equivalent, Matching, Alike, etc. Go buy a dictionary if these terms confuse you.
3) As you can clearly see from the FIRST POST, his question concerned using Win 7 and looking to upgrade to Win 8 - if that's too difficult for you, then just look at the title. Jesus.