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March 6th, 2015 15:00

PowerEdge T310 with H200 won't create Raid 1 array with 2 x SATA 1TB drives

I have had one of the original Seagate 1TB SAS drives in my PET310 server show as 'Failure predicted' and performance of the disk system now seems very bad. I have 2 x SATA drives of the same size I want to install and set up with Raid 1 and then do a full system restore from the SBS 2008 backup disc. When I try to create the Raid 1 array in the controller utility, it goes away to do some processing but when it comes back it says it is degraded and only shows one disc in the array, showing the other drive as 'Missing'. The firmware version installed is 7.01.09.00 which I realise is out of date but which surely must do the basic stuff with SATA or Dell would never have been able to sell servers with a SATA configuration. Even if I did try to upgrade the firmware there does not appear to be any other way to do that other than from a windows utility which I am not in a position to run.

Ignoring this issue just for a moment, if I simply put in a single disc and then try the restore from backup I get the  error 'The parameter is incorrect (0x80070057). I understand this is often associated with the case where the drive organisation you are trying to restore to does not match what the backup has. However, my server does not have multiple disc sets or other drives so it should only need a single partition on which to restore the 3 volumes in the backup. Even though there is not a Virtual Raid partition in this situation, the restore should still just sees a drive of the right size is available. I tried the same thing with a 2TB drive in case the sizes were minutely different but I think it would have told me the size was wrong if that had been the case. This failed with the same message.

My questions are these:

1. Is there not a utility to upgrade the firmware for an H200 other than from a Windows utility which means you have to have a running OS to execute it from?

2. Does the H200 on version 7.01.09.00 support normal Raid 1 with 2 x SATA 1TB Western Digital 1003FBYZ drives?

3. What could the cause be of the 0x80070057 error that will stop me restoring even if I do get the array up and working.

Would really appreciate some help here, I just have the weekend to sort this before returning the server.

Thanks

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March 6th, 2015 17:00

Hello

1. Is there not a utility to upgrade the firmware for an H200 other than from a Windows utility which means you have to have a running OS to execute it from?

All update methods require an operating system. You can use the hard drive version of the firmware update to update from DOS. You can also use the Linux update versions from a Linux live distro.

http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=8TPD2

2. Does the H200 on version 7.01.09.00 support normal Raid 1 with 2 x SATA 1TB Western Digital 1003FBYZ drives?

That looks like a standard Western Digital hard drive. We do not validate third party drives for our controllers. We only validate drives running our firmware. If you choose to use non-Dell drives then functionality will be trial and error.

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March 6th, 2015 23:00

Hi, thanks for speedy response.

Did see the 'hard drive' version but assumed it was something to do with hard drive firmware. Have now managed to upgrade firmware. Created new raid array with the 2 new WD discs but one is showing as a failed disc but it is correctly showing both as in the array which is better. No idea why my brand new WD disc is showing as failed , could still be issue with non validated drives I guess.

Given all this hassle I think I am very reluctantly going to have to revert to the old discs for the time being but when I reinserted them they show up ok in the controller utility but are both marked as inactive.

Question:

1. Is it ok to just activate the volume, and it will then return to how it was before I removed them and I can then boot off them as before? I am getting a little twitchy that I may do something that could render the array none usable and then I have nothing and nowhere to go.

Thanks

 

12 Elder

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March 7th, 2015 09:00

1. Is it ok to just activate the volume, and it will then return to how it was before I removed them and I can then boot off them as before? I am getting a little twitchy that I may do something that could render the array none usable and then I have nothing and nowhere to go.

Yes, that should work. The predictive failure status on the one drive is a warning that it has had a lot of blocks marked bad. That drive is likely to fail, but it it still functional.

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12 Elder

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March 7th, 2015 09:00

I think you are overthinking the problem.

The problem appears to be that you have 1 bad drive that is about to fail. That drive is causing performance issues.

I would suggest that you remove that drive and install one of the drives that you just bought. Let that new drive rebuild into the array. The drives in the array do not have to be identical. They need to be the same type(SAS, SATA) and the new drive need to be the same size OR larger than the other driver. Just pull the bad drive and put in the new drive in it's place. It should start automatically rebuilding if you have a backplane. If the drives are cabled then you may need to manually sync the array. Instructions for replacing a drive are in the H200 manual.

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March 7th, 2015 09:00

Hi, I went ahead with that after reading the H200 manual and it come up ok. I see after a while that the lights on the disc with the predicted failure often appears to lock up as it goes into retries which is where the performance hit is I guess. Would it in fact be better to pull that disc and drop into degraded mode where the single disc left would operate normally? Again, I get very nervous doing this when real data is at stake!

Of course I would not need to do this if I could get the restore to work. I read a lot about the disc organisation having to be the same to do a restore but as I only have a DVD and the raid controller in I can't see how I have that wrong. I boot off the DVD. The disc on the controller shouldn't need to be partitioned as that gets done by the restore, I should just need a single disc there of the right size to restore to. I did read something about the boot order needing to be the same, could that in some way be the issue. The boot order was set as DVD then Controller disc then Nic. I boot off the dvd to get to the restore application but that process creates other drives for the operating system it uses, could that be the issue?

Really appreciate your help here.

Thanks

12 Elder

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March 7th, 2015 09:00

I'm afraid that is part of my problem, I only had 2 SATA drives available at short notice so have been trying to put in new raid set and do system restore. I assume that if the backup is done from the SAS Raid virtual disc that there is no problem in theory in restoring to a SATA raid virtual disc, the discs types are masked by the controller and there is no subtle difference in the disc structure between the 2 virtual drives?

Thanks

Oh, the old drives are SAS and the new ones are SATA. Yes, you should have no issues copying data or restoring between the two arrays.

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March 7th, 2015 09:00

I'm afraid that is part of my problem, I only had 2 SATA drives available at short notice so have been trying to put in new raid set and do system restore. I assume that if the backup is done from the SAS Raid virtual disc that there is no problem in theory in restoring to a SATA raid virtual disc, the discs types are masked by the controller and there is no subtle difference in the disc structure between the 2 virtual drives?

Thanks

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March 7th, 2015 10:00

Thanks Daniel for all your help. Just one last thing then, I might just a well pull the bad disk anyway, not really much point in having it slug the system. Am I right that in degraded mode there is no actual difference to using a single disc on its own so performance should revert to be totally normal again?

12 Elder

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March 7th, 2015 10:00

Am I right that in degraded mode there is no actual difference to using a single disc on its own so performance should revert to be totally normal again?

Yes

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