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17 R5, Dell SupportAssist x64 v3.11.2.143 Installation failed

Programs and Features says Dell Support Assist v3.11.1.8 is installed, but it does not load, and right click on its task bar icon tries to install Dell Support Assist x64 v3.11.2.143. 

Has anyone managed to install a working Dell Support Assist x64 v3.11.2.143 ?

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  • crimsom

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    Posted June 9th, 2022 08:00

    Hi @lmacri thank you for keeping in touch. 

    My Windows Reliability Monitor and Event Viewer have NOT been logging USBIEUpdate (UsbUpdate.exe) errors. 

    Windows Reliability Monitor, has many Background Task Host Critical events, which keep complaining about Microsoft.WindowsFeedbackHub_1.2106.1801.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe. 

    If SupportAssist installation attempted, there is only a Warning event that reports installation failed 1603. 

    Screenshot 2022-06-09 155120.jpg Screenshot 2022-06-09 155215.jpg Screenshot 2022-06-09 154936.jpg 


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  • lmacri

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    Posted June 9th, 2022 09:00


    @crimsom wrote:

    ....My Windows Reliability Monitor and Event Viewer have NOT been logging USBIEUpdate (UsbUpdate.exe) errors...


    Hi crimsom:

    Any chance you're being offered a newer v3.11.3.63 .msi installer today?

    I'm not sure what's going on, but Dell employee Chris M posted today on page 15 of LittleMaui's Inspiron 3891, Event Viewer Error - Usbupdate.exe Fails that "We have been told the fix will be an automated update push through SupportAssist". Gee580 reported <here> in that same thread that their SupportAssist v3.10.4.18 updated to v3.11.3.63 (after one failed attempt), but when I launch my own SupportAssist for Home PCs on my Inspiron 5584 it still reports that v3.10.4.18 is the latest version. Perhaps SupportAssist v3.11.3.63 is only being pushed out to higher-end Alienware / XPS / Latitude / OptiPlex models.
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    Dell Inspiron 15 5584, Intel i5-8265U CPU, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB Toshiba KBG40ZNS256G NVMe SSD, Intel UHD Graphics 620

  • lmacri

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    Posted June 9th, 2022 11:00


    @crimsom wrote:

    ..Windows Reliability Monitor, has many Background Task Host Critical events, which keep complaining about Microsoft.WindowsFeedbackHub_1.2106.1801.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe.   If SupportAssist installation attempted, there is only a Warning event that reports installation failed 1603...



    Hi crimsom:

    Also, do you know where those Background Task Host errors for C:\Windows\System32.BakgroundTaskHost.exe are located in your Event Viewer? Those errors are different from the Dell SupportAssist update/installation warnings being logged in your Reliability Monitor that you showed <here> in you 28-May-2022 post, so it's hard to know if they're related in any way to your SupportAssist installation failures.

    The problem details for those those critical Background Task Host errors (Problem Event Name = MoBX; Faulting Module = KERNELBASE.dll) mention the Microsoft AAD Broker Plugin, which might be logging events at Event Viewer | Application and Services Log | Microsoft | Windows | AAD | Operational. My own Event Viewer shows that I haven't had anything logged in that area of my Event Viewer since the last time I was running tests on my system after logging in with a local Windows user account (i.e., not a Microsoft account) with Standard (non-Administrator) permissions.

    Win 10 Pro v21H2 Event Viewer Microsoft AAD Broker Plugin Warnings of Feb 2022 09 Jun 2022.png

    Have you run sfc /scannow or any of the DISM commands like Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth from an elevated command prompt (see the ghacks.net article Use DISM to Fix Issues SFC Can't) just to make sure you don't have any corrupted Windows system files?
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    Dell Inspiron 15 5584, Intel i5-8265U CPU, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB Toshiba KBG40ZNS256G NVMe SSD, Intel UHD Graphics 620


  • lmacri

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    Posted June 18th, 2022 17:00


    @crimsom wrote:

    SupportAssist Version: 3.11.3.63 has now been installed. BlueScreenView says BAD_POOL_CALLER problem caused by Driver DellInstrumentation.sys, which has been renamed to DellInstrumentation.sys.old having taken ownership of this file...


    Hi crimsom:

    Thanks for the update.

    Just out of curiosity, do you recall where that DellInstrumentation.sys driver was located? I did a quick check and couldn't find it in the C:\Program Files\Dell or C:\Windows\System32 folders of my Inspiron 5584.
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    Dell Inspiron 15 5584, Intel i5-8265U CPU, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB Toshiba KBG40ZNS256G NVMe SSD, Intel UHD Graphics 620

  • crimsom

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    Posted June 18th, 2022 23:00

    Hi @lmacri thank you for sharing request. 

    The 17 R5 DellInstrumentation.sys driver is located at C:\Windows\System32\drivers. 

    Having renamed the problematic 35KB system file DellInstrumentation.sys.old, at Restart, Windows automatically created a new 37KB DellInstrumentation.sys driver. 

    Despite Programs and Features saying Dell SupportAssist Version: 3.11.3.63 was installed, 17 R5 Diagnostics said that SupportAssist was not installed. Having undertaken the renamed DellInstrumentation.sys fix, the SupportAssist Repair option was the only way to get SupportAssist to install and appear in the Start Menu (Windows). Very pleased that the Dell SupportAssist application has been reinstated, so that it can be used by other Dell applications. 

    Repair SupportAssistRepair SupportAssist 


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  • lmacri

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    Posted June 19th, 2022 05:00


    @crimsom wrote:

    ... The 17 R5 DellInstrumentation.sys driver is located at C:\Windows\System32\drivers... 



    Hi crimsom:

    Just an FYI that I can't find that dellinstrumentation.sys driver on my Inspiron 5584 / SupportAssist v3.10.4.18 laptop in C:\Windows\System32\drivers. That problematic driver might be specific to Alienware models like your 17 R5 [e.g., the Alienware Command Center (AWCC) and/or Alienware OC Controls application] or even the new Dell SupportAssist v3.11.x release itself.

    Win 10 Pro v21H2 Windows System32 Drivers No DellInstrumentation_sys Driver 19 Jun 2022.png

    As of today, my SupportAssist v3.10.4.18 is still reporting that v3.10.4.18 is the latest available version for my Inspiron 5584, and there's still no release notes or user guides posted for SupportAssist v3.11.x at https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-ca/product-support/product/dell-supportassist-pcs-tablets/docs.

    Dell SupportAssist v3_10_4 Settings About 12 Jul 2022.png

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    64-bit Win 10 Pro v21H2 build 19044.1766 * Firefox v101.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.2203.5-1.1.19200.6 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.5.10.200-1.0.1702 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.6758 * Dell SupportAssist v3.10.4.18 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v4.5.0 * Dell SupportAssist Remediation v5.5.2.16157 * Inspiron 5583/5584 BIOS v1.18.0
    Dell Inspiron 15 5584, Intel i5-8265U CPU, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB Toshiba KBG40ZNS256G NVMe SSD, Intel UHD Graphics 620

  • crimsom

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    Posted June 19th, 2022 12:00

    Hi @lmacri thank you for sharing your FYI message. 

    The 17 R5 C:\Windows\System32\drivers folder has 503 items. The following image shows my changes to the dellinstrumentation.sys driver. 

    crimsom_0-1655664901267.png

    The behaviour of 17 R5 Diagnostics with Dell SupportAssist Version: 3.11.3.63, gives very different visual graphic tests and result tabulation. 

    What I do not understand is why the new SupportAssist 3.11.3.63 files are installed where the installation process cannot find them, and has the wrong msi file name. So there was a lot of research and a small number of changes to file names, to get SupportAssist Repair to work, because SupportAssist Install does not work. Dell Quality Assurance on this SupportAssist version update is poor. 


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  • crimsom

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    Posted June 23rd, 2022 06:00

    SupportAssist Version: 3.11.4.29 arrives, but full installation fails. Have to repair this version update to get full installation. 


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  • ThomasAAT

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    Posted June 23rd, 2022 14:00

    Seems the issue is related to a outdated NET 5.0: https://www.dell.com/community/SupportAssist-for-PCs/Dell-Support-Assist-Fails-to-install/m-p/8208504#M92914 

    Dell needs to fix this ASAP... 

  • ThomasAAT

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    Posted June 23rd, 2022 14:00

    Same problem here on both my systems. The installation starts but comes up with the error that the installation was unable to complete the installation. Restart the PC dosent help. So the update is failing. I guess @crimsom that we have to wait for Dell to send out a automatic fix so the installation will complete successful? Seen several post on the same problem today.