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February 7th, 2013 07:00

Lun Encryption on VNX

Hello and thank you in advance for any assistance provided!

Our team has recently deployed a VNX5300 solution and for the most part, everything has went smoothly. A client of ours requires that their data be encrypted at rest and after thorough discussions with EMC sales, it was determined that the VNX Security and Compliance Suite was the product we required to encrypt VNX Luns. Unfortunately, this product has been a nightmare so far as all that was included in this Suite was VNX Event Enabler which after researching, is nothing more than Antivirus software for the VNX. I am hoping that someone in the community has experience with encrypting from the VNX level rather than using tools such as LUKS for Linux or Bitlocker for Windows. Is the Security and Compliance Suite what is required and if so, is there Installation Documentation anywhere? I've done a lot of research and have yet to find anything other than Event Enabler documentation. Thank you again!

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February 7th, 2013 07:00

Hi,

what you want is VNX host encryption – aka. PowerPath encryption

http://powerlink.emc.com/km/live1/en_US/Offering_Basics/Offering_Collateral/h8572-ds-vnx-host-encrypition.pdf

It is indeed included in the Security and Compliance suite.

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February 7th, 2013 07:00

Thank you Rainer - Should I have received an Enabler file or is there another way to install Powerpath? Also, do I require the RSA product or can I use another key management solution?

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February 7th, 2013 07:00

there is no native encryption functionality in VNX, you will need to use PowerPath encryption with RSA key managers. I am not sure what sku EMC uses to bundle this solution.

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February 7th, 2013 08:00

No enabler needed – it is just host (client) software

The difference between PowerPath encryption and VNX host encryption is mainly licensing. PPE is per host where as the VNX host encryption purchased through the suite covers any number of hosts attached to the array.

Yes you need RSA for key management.

You local EMC or partner technical contact who sold you the system should be able to help you with licensing.

Rainer

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February 7th, 2013 08:00

PowerPath Encryption will require a special license key that you install on the host.

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February 22nd, 2013 04:00

Hi RRR

What is it in that Presentation that makes you assume that Self encrypting drives will be available for the VNX...

Just the fact that they are available for the VNXe does not guarantee that they are coming for the VNX.

The 2 systems runs on different code and cannot be compared.

It would be something like seeing a feature on VMAX and saying hey that will be available on VNX very soon....

It may happen but I cannot see where your info is coming from...

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February 22nd, 2013 04:00

Hey guys, last year we had a customer update where EMC anounced a few new things for the VNX:

Q4’12 Release

  • Self-encrypting drives:
    • 900GB SAS
    • 3TB NL-SAS
  • 4TB NL-SAS (base support)

This was presented to us by EMC and this is regarding the VNXe, but you can assume it always goes for the regular VNX models.

I simply googled for it and when I saw the presentation I remembered them saying it:

https://www.google.nl/#hl=nl&sclient=psy-ab&q=self+encrypting+drive+emc&oq=self+encrypting+drive+emc&gs_l=hp.3..0i30.1035.10848.0.10958.25.16.8.1.2.1.344.1412.13j2j0j1.16.0...1.0...1c.1.4.psy-ab._K-btqL5ess&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42768644,d.d2k&fp=2d876d7b44067030&biw=1664&bih=791

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February 22nd, 2013 04:00

self encrypting drives are not available for VNX ..(at least not yet)

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February 22nd, 2013 04:00

Ok, but reading this EMC presentation I can safely assume they will be soon. I’d keep an eye out for this. Maybe more @EMCWorld ?

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February 22nd, 2013 04:00

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February 22nd, 2013 05:00

Dont assume – talk to your EMC contact about roadmap details

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February 22nd, 2013 06:00

I never said it will be, but that I assumed it. At least EMC is working on it. VMAX also has “encryption in rest” I think it’s called, so the low end and the high end already have it, so my assumption just might be true

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February 22nd, 2013 06:00

How dare you to contemplate and being logical !?!  :d

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February 22nd, 2013 06:00

I know, I know, but I was just trying to point out that VNXe has it and that’s a VNX as well, isn’t it?

Don’t shoot me, please :P

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February 26th, 2015 05:00

if they need array level encryption they will need to purchase VNX2 with DataEncryption enabler.

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