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October 30th, 2004 11:00

Aluria has joined with WhenU

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11723816~mode=flat

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This is a stunning development against the Anti-Spyware movement. Aluria has joined with WhenU supposedly to market a spyware scanner.... http://www.whenu.com/whenu_solution.html

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 WhenU is committed to protecting consumers' privacy and consumer PCs against dangerous spyware. This is why WhenU has teamed up with Aluria Software, a leading provider of anti-spyware tools, to provide WhenU consumers with UControl. UControl is the first product in the online advertising industry that provides a comprehensive scan of your computer and removes unwanted spyware programs, while continuing to provide the deals, offers and value consumers have come to expect from WhenU contextual products. Using Aluria's technology, WhenU's UControl Spyware Scanner: Rids your computer of dangerous spyware Protects privacy and personal information Prevents credit card theft Increases system performance Ends browser hijacking Enables consumers to continue to receive relevant contextual advertising, special deals and offers Innovation is the key to the survival of any industry, and WhenU looks forward to playing a pivotal role in this evolving field of consumer protection. This product will be ready for download on November 1, 2004.

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Due to this development, Aluria is no longer a part of ASAP nor will TomCoyote site recommend thier products, I would like to have any other ASAP list on your own forums removed as well concerning Aluria's involvement. I would also like to suggest blacklisting Aluria from all future corespondance in the Anti-Spyware community and make sure we get the word out that their programs can no longer be trusted.

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Quote from one post at - http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11723816~mode=flat - comment by Eric L. Howes

The UControl anti-spyware application flagged FlashGet, which is installed on my computer. The problem is that it flagged the full, registered version as "suspect," not distinguishing between the ad-supported version and the full, registered version.

What does this mean? It means that WhenU's anti-spyware scanner is flagging a competing adware product -- a product that uses a similar advertising model as WhenU's own products and that competes with WhenU for advertising dollars. Unfair competitition?

Still worse, WhenU's scanner is flagging an adware application that is arguably MORE CONSUMER FRIENDLY than WhenU's own applications because FlashGet allows users to remove the advertising permanently.

What we have here is a case of utter hypocrisy -- an adware vendor who effectively bought protection from an anti-spyware vendor by partnering with that anti-spyware vendor is now distributing an anti-spyware product that flags the non-ad supported version of a product from a competing adware company that is arguably more consumer friendly than WhenU itself.

And Aluria is distributing its spyware application through an adware company that is arguably less consumer friendly than the adware its own anti-spyware product flags and removes.

The makers of FlashGet would be quite justified in being a little miffed at the treatment they're getting from the competition.

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Message Edited by ChrisRLG on 10-30-2004 01:48 PM

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October 30th, 2004 12:00

Chris: Thanks for keeping us informed. It seems like they just can't resist going where the slightly better bucks are. Its really sad that they have to resort to this for a few extra bucks.   :smileysad:

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October 30th, 2004 18:00

  Ben Edelman has a lot to say about WhenU, including Advertisers Using WhenU.   Ben also documents privacy concerns and security concerns associated with WhenU’s software. 
----------Taken from suzi's blog http://www.netrn.net/spywareblog/

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November 2nd, 2004 11:00

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The presidential election has nothing on the debates in the anti-spyware industry. An announcement last week from adware vendor WhenU and anti-spyware company Aluria Software has raised red flags in the anti-spyware community.
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"Aluria has gone almost immediately from targeting WhenU as spyware to the next day having a partnership," said Mike Healan, editor of SpywareInfo.com. Healan said he has de-listed Aluria, no longer recommending or linking to the company from his site. ====================
"We're sticking our necks out there," said Rick Carlson, president of Aluria Software. He said desktop advertising is a legitimate business if it is held to standards, and Aluria has taken an approach not yet seen in the industry.
"We're protecting consumers in a different way; it's absolutely contrary to what others [anti-spyware firms] are doing," he said.
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My comment.
 
They have certainly put thier neck out, lets hope for thier sakes it was not into a noose.
As it stands now I too cannot recommend them to any prospective cutomers of anti-malware products.
 
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