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March 28th, 2008 12:00

booting a copy of XP Pro system disk on different Dell hardware

I have a (remarkably) still running Inspiron 5150 laptop that has many years of my business data and related programs on it. I use Casper to create image copies of my XP Pro system disk to an external USB enclosed drive (which houses an hitachi 100 GB 7200 rpm travelstar disk, same as the internal drive of my laptop). 

 

I will be  purchasing a new computer, probably an optiplex with a high end dual processor from dell outlet with xp pro installed. 

 

What I would love to do is boot a copy of my 5150 system disk on the new system. Obviously drivers will be an issue, but I do have the luxury of installing those drivers by booting the copy of my drive on my 5150. The path of least resistance would obviously to use the file/setting migration wizard and re-install programs on the new server (the majority are opensource, like OpenSTA... this system will be used for load testing ), but I have so much "stuff" that I've long ago lost the install disks for which motivates me to try this. That fact that I've tried this idea out by trying to boot my wife's latitude 620 with my drive and got a blue screen in the process tells me this is an uphill battle, but I've got a few days on my hands to try an learn a bit here and potentially sort this out.

  

Anywho, I'd appreciate any pointers to a "by the numbers" approach to doing this. I want to reiterate, I am more then happy to purchase a new XP license for the new server... this is not an end run around OS or product licensing.

 

Thanks,

Bernie 

 

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March 28th, 2008 12:00

Never done this with a laptop but it should work, as long as your optiplex mombo supports booting off of an external usb drive.

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March 28th, 2008 12:00

Hi Ottis,

 

> but you can always try this to run the old install in the new PC.

 

This is exactly what I want to do. Sorry it this was unclear. 

 

>first clone the original drive and live the original alone we don't' want to mess thatup yet ;)

 

Done. BUT... the clone is on a laptop drive, for my experimenting the target machine will be another dell laptop (moving from an insprion 5150 to latitude 620 to get some experience doing this), but the end goal is to port to a desktop. Are there any special issues with the process you outlined given that I will need to boot the cloned version off an external USB drive on the target optiplex system? 

 

Still, thanks for the advice. Lets see if I can play with this safely and not destroy either my or my wife's perfectly running laptops! (fingers crossed!!)

 

Thanks,

Bernie 

Message Edited by ArrowDriver on 03-28-2008 09:37 AM
Message Edited by ArrowDriver on 03-28-2008 09:38 AM

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March 28th, 2008 12:00

Well first you will not be able to migrate all the apps and their settings, so get ready for some reinstalling and reconfiguring ;)

 

now you can try something here but if you ask me a fresh install is best but you can overcome the reconfiguring many apps by installing the app then using your settings for that app from the old drive's application data folder ;)

 

but you can always try this to run the old install in the new PC.

 

first clone the original drive and live the original alone we don't' want to mess that up yet ;)

 

ok grab the clone drive and go ;)

 

The non-ACPI routine.
After you've cloned (not just installed XP) the old drive onto the new hd, install it in the old rig as the primary boot device; unplug the old. Then:

Find out if the new mobo supports non-ACPI operation. Check its' specs; almost all do.

If so, print this out - and good luck!

OLD SYSTEM
Remove and uninstall all the current drivers (video, sound, chipset, ide) from Control Panel - Add/Remove.

Find Device Manager (Start - Run - (type in)devmgmt.msc - Enter). Expand the Computer value - double-click ACPI Uniprocessor PC - driver tab - Update driver.
Choose to "Install from a list or specific location (Advanced) - Don't Search.
UNCHECK THE BOX "Show compatible hardware". Select "Standard PC". Click Next & OK. You will get a Restart prompt. NO! "DO NOT RESTART".
While still in D/M (Device Manager), delete the rest of the hardware whose drivers you didn't find in C/P relating to the above list only.
Shut down and do not turn it on until you've completed ALL the hardware swapping in the old rig; or installed the drive in a new machine.

NEW SYSTEM
Turn on and bootup. XP will load & redetect the entire hardware config. Probably will reboot a couple of times.

After you get a quiet desktop, Start - Run - (type in)cmd.exe - Enter

Type this in: set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1

Type: devmgmt.msc

View tab - Show hidden devices. The old stuff will have transparent icons.
Select, right-click and Uninstall all of these EXCEPT the ones inside "Non-Plug and Play Drivers" and "Sound, video and game controllers". Reboot.

Back into D/M - expand the Computer value. Double-click the first Standard PC - driver tab - Update driver. Choose "Install from a list...." - "Don't search....". Uncheck "Show compatible hardware - Select "Advanced....(ACPI) PC". Next - OK - Restart.

XP will now detect again. When done, reboot. Back into D/M - expand Computer - right-click Standard PC - uninstall. Reboot.

Back into D/M and get rid of the transparent icons again, as per three paragraphs above. Reboot.

Check the new mobo cd documentation. You may want to install all the NEW drivers again if that is part of their instruction for XP operating system.

I know it's a lot of steps, but I feel it's much quicker than a clean install with all its' updating & setting stuff up but it will take some time.
 
since we used a clone worst case senario you still got the original sitting nice a safe some place else ;) 
Message Edited by Otiss on 03-28-2008 08:27 AM
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