Jamespro
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Studio XPS 435MT, upgrade options

Looking to update an old PC. Wondering about what and how to do this. Tried taking some pics of the specs but was unable to figure out how to even resize them to post. Everything is original outside of graphics card, power source, and added ram. It's either this or spend money I don't have to buy a completely new system

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Re: Studio XPS 435mt upgrade options.


@Jamespro wrote:

Looking to update an old PC. Wondering about what and how to do this. Tried taking some pics of the specs but was unable to figure out how to even resize them to post. Everything is original outside of graphics card, power source, and added ram. It's either this or spend money I don't have to buy a completely new system


I would not spend more than $100 on it. For that, install a (famous maker) 240gb-512gb SATA-3/600 SSD as bootable C: . That should speed-it-up quite a bit.

Take all this other money you were planning to spend on upgrades (they are not cheap) and put in savings account for new desktop computer. 

 


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Re: Studio XPS 435mt upgrade options.

Have the same machine, with everything pretty much maxed out.  What version of Windows are you on, how much RAM do you have currently and what graphics card?  What do you use the machine for?

A CPU upgrade to an Intel Xeon W3580 (quad core @ 3.33 GHz, i7-975 equivalent) is cheap, about $35 on ebay.  But, if you're on Vista (no longer updated) or Windows 7 (updates end in less than a year - January 14, 2020), it may not be worth it.

And I can attest that a SSD in the 435MT (I'd get at least 240 GB) makes a big difference as Tesla1856 mentioned.  $30 - $50 for a new or used one.

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meddah4
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Re: Studio XPS 435MT, upgrade options

Studio XPS 435mt? I've owned one for 10 years. Done numerous mods and replacements. I couldn't really recommend it because it's getting dated pretty quick now. because of several things. Can't update the bios, ram speed is limited to 1300 mhz, i7 920, parts to upgrade are far too few and in some cases, cost above retail. the ddr 3 ram in the 435 is quickly being dated by ddr4.

Windows 10 would probably tax the start up processes and with newer 64 bit programs with multiple features will slow down considerably. Even with an SSD. In fact, the SSD might be the best upgrade for it. The 920 is only running at 2.67 g and even if you upgrade the motherboard, you're not going to get more than 3.0 g. Even the psu is too small for it.

To start, you'll need to mod the case for cooling, gut everything, get a new motherboard and processor that runs ddr4 (ddr 4 because ddr3 is being phased out).

Would I do it? Yeah, I would. But I'm a computer nut case, an ex tech, a hobbyist and build my computers. I can't recommend trying to rebuild something that old. If you have some background, that helps. Upgrading something that old and that limited, I can't offer any recommendations. The best thing to do is find a used early model ddr4 (z170 motherboard) machine with an i7 processor (Like a 6700k processor). Then you'll have a very good starting point.

You could bury $500 into it and it'll still have incurable problems.

Sorry I'm not much help but I wish you good luck.

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Re: Studio XPS 435MT, upgrade options


@meddah4 wrote:

Windows 10 would probably tax the start up processes and with newer 64 bit programs with multiple features will slow down considerably. Even with an SSD.  [...]  The 920 is only running at 2.67 g and even if you upgrade the motherboard, you're not going to get more than 3.0 g. 


Above doesn't match my experience with the machine. 

I'm running Windows 10 on a SSD with the 3.33 GHz base clock quad-core CPU that you can get for about $35 I mentioned above.  I've overclocked it to 3.73 GHz.  On the original motherboard, cooler, PSU and un-modded Dell BIOS.  While running Prime95.  I don't run overclocked since I think it shortens the life of the motherboard, but it's doable if you want to.

Cold power up to Windows 10 Login screen is 35 seconds.  From there, instant to Desktop after Login if the machine had been shutdown without explicitly logging out, 3 seconds otherwise.  (This is without overclocking.)

Apps, most of which are 64-bit, come up almost instantly - there's no feeling you're waiting for anything.  Of course, the 24 GB RAM I have helps (there's reason to believe it would support 48 GB) - lots of memory for fast disk cache and it pretty much never has to slow down to swap an app out of memory to disk to make room for another app.

I'm not suggesting upgrading the machine at this point is the best decision, but maxed out it's performance is something I can live with, at least for non-demanding applications.

My posts on CPU upgrades and overclocking are here and here (including following posts).  SSD and Windows 10 upgrade experience here.

meddah4
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Re: Studio XPS 435MT, upgrade options

Obviously you went through a lot of time to circumvent Dell's prohibiting practices. I commend you. Since I was referring to the Dell Studio XPS 435mt (i7 920), I never found a way to update the bios on the Dell motherboard (Foxconn OR849J). I tried to upgrade the cpu to 960 but no cigar. It just 'black screen'. I couldn't get Intel's XTU to work either. Nor could I run ram higher than 1333.

I was able to update the hardware and peripherals. The last upgrade was an SSD which was 4 years ago.

I stopped trying find a fix but rather build my computers and avoid Dell's frustrating policies and their OEM partners altogether. -Understanding this, Dell is not in the business of fixing computers. Dell is in the business of selling computers. 

 

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DiddyKong
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Re: Studio XPS 435MT, upgrade options

I still own mine, it’s my daily driver, CPU still working like brand new, some RAM died, HDD died years ago. Replaced with SSD and then a few years later when I gave my PS4 to my son for his 6th birthday I realized my PC couldn’t game and got a GTX 1050 and 2x 8gb for ram and filled the last 4 slots with the stock 1gb sticks and finally bought a correct PSU instead of swapping old ones. And WOW, I think imma upgrade to a XEON and raid0 SSDs before I build a new computer. This MOTHERBOARD stood the test of time, and is running Mac OS and windows 10 dual booting with clover bootloader
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