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XPS 8500, Xeon
I got my hands on Dell XPS 8500 Motherboard (Dell 0YJPT1), and I want to boost its performance.
So I updated its BIOS to A14 (the latest one on Dell's website) and put my old i5 3470S and 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 (those are what I have at the first time).
I did some research and found that Xeons can be used on this motherboard (https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/16872968, or just search XPS 8500 xeon at userbenchmark's search bar)
I put Xeon E3-1270v2, but then I got 4 beeps error (which indicates RAM error). Tried RAM troubleshooting by seating each RAM on every slot, still got the 4 beeps error. But when I revert it to i5 3470S, the PC works fine with 4 sticks of RAM.
This is my userbenchmark result using the i5 3470S: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/21277468
Then I look again at the link above (https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/16872968), and found some things:
- Same motherboard type, but the BIOS date is 20180625, while mine - the latest BIOS from Dell's website - is 20180308
- The RAM is clocked at 1600MHz, while mine is locked at 1333MHz. This motherboard doesn't have any overclocking utility or load XMP Profile as far as I know
So my questions are:
- Is it really possible to use Xeon on this motherboard?
- Is it possible if my RAM doesn't compatible with Xeon?
- Are there any custom / beta BIOS that I can use?
All help and advice is expected, and sorry for my bad English
Tesla1856
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October 29th, 2019 10:00
I suggest you keep the working Intel-i5 in the Dell motherboard.
If you want to run the Intel-Xeon, I think better to do that in a retail or aftermarket motherboard like Asus or similar.
speedstep
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October 28th, 2019 11:00
CHIPSET, Micro Code, and Socket LGA 1155 are NOT compatible.
So no its not supported.
3 rd Gen Core I7 3770 is not the same as your xeon.
The I7 has intel HD Graphics and the Xeon has nothing.
Techgee
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October 28th, 2019 23:00
But you didn't - not exactly.
I don't know the difference, but what you have is motherboard 0NW73C, according to what's on userbenchmark.com. (Motherboard number can also be displayed with HWiNFO64.) Both Dell XPS 8500 and Dell Vostro 470 userbenchmarks seem to be a mix of these two motherboard numbers.
The userbenchmark link you provided with the Xeon and a link here indicate some E3 Xeons work with Dell motherboard 0YJPT1. There is also a couple of userbenchmarks under Dell Vostro 470 with the same 0YJPT1 motherboard number that have a Xeon. I could not find any 0NW73C motherboards running a Xeon, although this may not be statistically significant.
Techgee
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October 29th, 2019 09:00
@JC1109,
After looking more thoroughly, I did manage to find some Xeon hits on userbenchmark.com with the 0NW73C motherboard.
Below are all the hits I found for both motherboards under Dell XPS 8500 and Dell Vostro 470 on userbenchmark.com. These additional data points might help, whether this issue is RAM related or not.
Dell XPS 8500, motherboard 0NW73C
Intel Xeon E3-1240 V2
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/15310382
Intel Xeon E3-1245
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4610762
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4584627
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/3979938
Dell XPS 8500, motherboard 0YJPT1
Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/20288525
Intel Xeon E3-1270 V2
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/7594775
Intel Xeon E3-1280 V2
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/18520742
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/16872968
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/15287470
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/16466676
Dell Vostro 470, motherboard 0YJPT1
Intel Xeon E3-1220
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/10910887
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/20786421
Techgee
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October 29th, 2019 09:00
I think you're on the right track and if I were to guess this looks like a JEDEC SPD/XMP memory compatibility issue. What I've found is that some RAM focuses on overclocking and populates XMP table entries but doesn't populate the standard/common JEDEC SPD entries. A Xeon chip will most likely only look at the JEDEC SPD entries.
I'd take a look at your RAM speed table entries with something like CPU-Z or HWiNFO64 to see if DDR3 1333/1600 JEDEC SPD entries needed by the Xeon E3-1270 v2 are there at all.
speedstep
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October 31st, 2019 07:00
Dell plays games with the front panel connector with Jumpers. 0NW73C is the number used on XPS systems.
If you have a VOSTRO front panel cable an XPS motherboard will show Vostro when you turn it on.
Studio XPS 8500 and Vostro 470 use SAME Motherboard. The bios tells the difference based on front panel connector having jumpers or not. 02NMDC is the cable number.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-02NMDC-Dell-Vostro-470-Power-Button-HDD-Status-LED-Cable-Assy-2NMDC-/111217590787
https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=4h7wy
VOSTRO 470 Front Panel Connector 12 pins.
JC1109
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November 1st, 2019 22:00
Thank you for all of your responses,
For the update of my system,
I trade my Xeon E3-1270v2 to my friend who have i7 3770k.
He said that Xeon is more stable and have lower TDP, so he prefer Xeon than his i7 3770k (even though he has Z77 motherboard). I think he doesn't want to overclock his "k" processor.
Both of our systems are working fine, with similar CPU performance based on userbenchmark.
As for me, well I won't get any additional performance because I can't overclock my CPU and RAM on ONW73C motherboard. But this motherboard does support "k" series CPU.
Anyway, for now I have 4cores-8threads system and multitasking is much smoother now.
I think I have solved my problem. But the question about how to get Xeons working on this motherboard, and 1600MHz RAM are still mysteries.
Once again I thank you all for all your help.
You guys are awesome!