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GLF650
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XPS 8930, GPU upgrade, #7

Currently operating an XPS 8930 with an i7-8700 3.20GHz CPU (6 Core 12M Cache up to 4.6GHz) 16GB RAM with a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB GDDR5 GPU contained within the Mainstream chassis w/ 460W PSU

Was considering possibly upgrading the GPU to one of the following Nvidia GeForce GTX 16 Series GPU's

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/gtx-1650-super/

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/gtx-1660-super/

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/gtx-1660-ti/

 

In speaking with Dell regarding this I was told that the only GPU upgrade that would allow me to remain within the limitations of warranty (having just extended my warranty with Premium Support) would be a Nvidia GTX 1060 series GPU in keeping with the 460W PSU, and do understand the connection between upgrading a GPU and staying within the limitations of the onboard PSU and would rather not begin swapping out PSU's at this point

In doing some online and forum research regarding this, and would stand corrected if wrong, I believe that warranty coverage would still be valid if I chose to use a different GPU than the suggested GTX 1060, but would not cover any failure related to the GPU and this would be understandable from Dell's position

This matter is however secondary, and is getting away from the real question regarding upgrading the GPU, but I would be interested if anybody knowledgeable would care to address it

The real issue is that I feel there would be very little if any performance gain in moving from the current GTX 1050 Ti to a GTX 1060, and the cost and availability of the GTX 1060 would be hard to justify for an older generation GPU (GTX 1060) when the newer generation GTX 16 Series GPU's are in the same (or better) price range and are much more readily available

I do understand that the Nvidia GTX 16 Series GPU's are not in the same league as their flagship RTX 20 Series GPU's and I have to limit the range of replacement GPU's that I may possibly consider upgrading to because of the 460W PSU currently onboard (again noting that I would rather not swap out the PSU at this time) but would be interested in any thoughts or comments that anybody may have regarding what I am considering regarding upgrading the GPU and staying within the PSU's 460W capabilities especially if they have any experience with the GTX 16 Series GPU's

Another question regarding the XPS 8930 Supplementary Power Pin connected to the primary PSU in the event that it was or is required, it would visually appear to be a 6 Pin Connector with an additional 2 Pin Connector attached via a very short dongle cable to the primary 6 Pin Connector, which I assume would make it compatible with a GPU requiring either a 6 or 8 Supplementary Power Pin Connector, knowing that being able to expand the XPS is one of it's primary selling points, this would seem logical but was unable to get this confirmed when speaking to the Dell Tech

Any thoughts comments or suggestions would be very much apprciated

Thanks

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Vic384
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Re: XPS 8930 GPU Upgrade

If you look at the Dell site: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-desktop-computers/xps-desktop/spd/xps-8930-desktop/xdvmstcr003s...

they offer the following graphics cards as options for the XPS 8930 that meet your power supply requirement 
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5 300W None

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB GDDR5 450W 8-pin

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6GB GDDR6 450W 8-pin

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5 400W 6-pin

I have listed the recommended system power and the supplementary power connectors required. If these options are available when ordering your system I don't understand why they are not options for a GPU upgrade.

Tesla1856
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Re: XPS 8930 GPU Upgrade


@GLF650 wrote:

XPS 8930 with an i7-8700
16GB RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Dell 460W PSU

1. The real issue is that I feel there would be very little if any performance gain in moving from the current GTX 1050 Ti to a GTX 1060, 

2. appear to be a 6 Pin Connector with an additional 2 Pin Connector attached via a very short dongle cable to the primary 6 Pin Connector, which I assume would make it compatible with a GPU requiring either a 6 or 8 Supplementary Power Pin Connector,

3. unable to get this confirmed when speaking to the Dell Tech

 


1. Correct. But that really applies to all those similar cards you listed. You would have to install a GTX-1070 or better (and a more powerful Power-Supply to run it).

Just so you know ... trying to turn a XPS-8930 into a graphics-workstation or gaming-machine is a losing proposition (for most users). Maybe you should read some recent posts ? Who knows, Maybe you a skilled/experienced pc-hardware "modder" .

2. Yes, that sounds like a 8-pin PCIe-Graphics-Power-Cable. Yes, you can use an 8-pinner as a 6-pinner.

3. They say various things ( I can't comment). They don't read/post here.


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Dell630i
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Re: XPS 8930 GPU Upgrade

@GLF650     . . . knowing that being able to expand the XPS is one of it's primary selling points

🤣 🤣  🤣       no.

. . . not sure why you would be limiting your options by staying with a 460 watt PSU, as those are very easy to replace.

GLF650
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Re: XPS 8930 GPU Upgrade

Hi and thanks for your response...I was also unsure as to why the tech rep that I spoke to seemed to be suggesting that the only GPU upgrade option available while staying fully within the warranty coverage would be the GTX 1060.

Especially when as your link from Dell's website states, that these GPU's are available as options if ordering an XPS 8930 and also fall within the 460W PSU's power rating, although the GTX 1660 6GB GDDR5 and the GTX 1660Ti 6GB GDDR6 at 450W requirement would probably be pushing a little close to the limit of the PSU's capabilities.

The tech rep was helpful, and I don't know but suspect, that his comments regarding the GTX 1060 as the only upgrade to the GPU that would stay within warranty, is a standard response to keep people from going too far 'outside the lane' when they are talking about doing upgrades. Maybe not such a bad thing in some cases.

Thanks again for you response

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GLF650
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Re: XPS 8930 GPU Upgrade

Hi and thanks for your feedback

1. "Correct. But that really applies to all those similar cards you listed. You would have to install a GTX-1070 or better (and a more powerful Power-Supply to run it)."

 I realize that I'm probably going to have to move to a higher rated GPU such as the GTX 1070 as you suggested, or possibly even the GTX 1080 and swap out the 460W PSU to be able to run them in order to see a real gain in performance. I guess that I'm just avoiding the inevitable by looking at some of the other GPU's that I listed if performance is the end goal. I am by no means a skilled/experienced pc-hardware modder, and really do appreciate your honest feedback, it will save me time and allow me to focus more clearly on what I should do.

2."Yes, that sounds like a 8-pin PCIe-Graphics-Power-Cable. Yes, you can use an 8-pinner as a 6-pinner."

Thanks for clarifying this, I was pretty sure that's what it was, but when the tech rep couldn't confirm this, it left me with a small degree of doubt.

3. "They say various things ( I can't comment). They don't read/post here."

Got ya....say no more.

Thanks again for your feedback, much appreciated

 

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GLF650
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Re: XPS 8930 GPU Upgrade

Hi and thanks for your response

I think that your correct about limiting the GPU upgrade options by not considering swapping out the 460W PSU. Was thinking that it's more complicated than it probably really is. In looking through some other posts regarding this, it seems that the Seasonic Focus Plus Platinum Series 750W / 850W is one of the preferred replacement PSU's that others have used when changing out their PSU's. Any other possible suggestions that you may have would be welcomed.

I'll have to seriously give this some thought, it would definitely open up the range of GPU replacements that could be considered.

Thanks again

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Dell630i
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Re: XPS 8930 GPU Upgrade

@GLF650    I'll have to seriously give this some thought

I also went with the Seasonic Focus fully modular 850 watt PSU

Fan & PSU Upgrade 

 

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Re: XPS 8930 GPU Upgrade

And for the record, you're free to upgrade your PC any way you want and not void the warranty.

Except, Dell may require you to return it to the original factory config to get warranty service, if you should ever need it  And obviously, Dell's  warranty won't cover any parts you install.

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GLF650
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Re: XPS 8930 GPU Upgrade

Very informative and great images walking through the process

Thanks very much

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